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Post by WeNeed3 on Feb 4, 2009 19:40:21 GMT -5
I remember some years ago there was an incident involving two NV students. A kid stalked and attacked another boy, (it happened outside of school) and the victim is now paralyzed. However while the victim was hospitalized fighting for his life the assaliant continued to attend school at NV and threatened and intimidated the siblings of the victim. The SD did nothing about it. It's too bad a new policy was not considererd back then. Maybe this will cause the district to create a policy as they obviously need one.
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Post by justvote on Feb 4, 2009 19:41:17 GMT -5
I know you are the "voice of reason", but it's very difficult not to be emotional about this situation. It just doesn't seem fair to the victim, but I guess this isn't about what's "fair", it's about what's legal. I also believe it's about the SD covering their proverbial a**es regarding potential litigation if they try to remove these boys. What a horrible tragedy for this poor boy to have to relive what was done to him every time he sees these boys in the halls of Gregory. I remember some years ago there was an incident involving two NV students. A kid stalked and attacked another boy, (it happened outside of school) and the victim is now paralyzed. However while the victim was hospitalized fighting for his life the assaliant continued to attend school at NV and threatened and intimidated the siblings of the victim. The SD did nothing about it. Yes - it happened right near Gregory Middle School where the student lived (& once attended). How ironic.
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Post by wvhsparent on Feb 4, 2009 20:05:00 GMT -5
Parent, when would you expect this to go to trial roughly? Depends on which County it happened in Will or DuPage. I don't think it will be terribly long, maybe 6 months. I can't check on it due to juvenile restrictions.
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Post by eb204 on Feb 4, 2009 20:46:34 GMT -5
A friend of mine said her niece used to go out with one of the boys who assaulted this kid. She told me what they did to the boy, as her niece told it to her. It is horrific and certainly not fit for print here. I can't even imagine my own son having to endure that kind of torment. Her niece told her that this kid is from a very unstable home and is left unattended for a majority of the time. A very sad situation for all involved.
My friend told me her niece was no longer dating this kid...God only knows what that boy might do in a relationship.
I don't think the victim should have to change schools at all. He's been through enough. The fact that he can even come to school and face anyone, let alone his assailants, shows he has a lot of courage. I am just sickened by the whole thing.
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Post by wvhsparent on Feb 4, 2009 21:00:27 GMT -5
If this assailant is as evil as everyone is making him out to be, I am surprised they have not found another (in-school related) event to kick him out?
Seems someone has dropped the ball.
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Post by title1parent on Feb 5, 2009 6:57:08 GMT -5
www.suburbanchicagonews.com/napervillesun/news/1414763,6_NA4_Alleged-assault-could-topic-meeting.article Alleged sex assault could be topic at meetingFebruary 5, 2009 By BILL BIRD / wbird@scn1.com Members of the Indian Prairie School District 204 Board of Education could be confronted during their regularly-scheduled Monday meeting by the parents of a middle school student from Naperville who was allegedly sexually assaulted off-campus last year by two classmates. Other parents concerned for the well-being and safety of their children will also reportedly attend the board meeting. It is set for 5 p.m. Monday at the Crouse Education Center at 780 Shoreline Drive in Aurora, according to the district's Web site. The Naperville Sun reported Jan. 25 on the alleged attack on an 11-year-old boy who attends Gregory Middle School, at 2621 Springdale Circle on Naperville's far south side. He was allegedly assaulted Nov. 11 in a private residence by two boys ages 11 and 12. Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow's office has filed felony charges of criminal sexual assault and criminal sexual abuse against accused youths, along with misdemeanor charges of battery. The boys will be prosecuted as juveniles. School officials late last month refused to say whether the alleged attackers have been expelled or suspended, but CBS 2 Chicago, a news partner of the Naperville Sun, reported during its Tuesday night newscast that both youths continue to attend classes. The station broadcast an interview with a man and a woman identified as the victim's parents. The audibly distraught man said the victim "has to face every day the people that violently sexually assaulted him" because they remain in school. The man said he was angry over his "expectation that when your children go to school, that every effort will be made to protect them from sex offenders." He also expressed outrage over the district's policies. Students can be expelled if they threaten or intimidate district staff members even when away from school grounds, but not if they harm or threaten their fellow students in an off-campus setting, as happened to the victim, the man said. "The message that's being sent is, do what you wish off school grounds, there'll be no penalties or punishments to you," the woman on the videotape said. District 204 Supt. Stephen Daeschner, in a statement released Wednesday to The Sun, said the alleged attack is "a legal issue that happened outside of our school, and the court has not decided an outcome." "While we wait for the legal proceedings to move forward, we are doing all we can with this sensitive situation, to ensure a safe and effective learning environment for all students," Daeschner said. "While the district can't provide specifics on student discipline matters, I assure you the school has taken action to prioritize student safety."
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Post by asmodeus on Feb 5, 2009 8:21:23 GMT -5
How would the niece know what happened? Was she there? Did the boy confess?
Furthermore, why in God's name are 11-year olds "dating"? If this is occurring, parents are to blame.
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Post by majorianthrax on Feb 5, 2009 8:36:15 GMT -5
How would the niece know what happened? Was she there? Did the boy confess? Furthermore, why in God's name are 11-year olds "dating"? If this is occurring, parents are to blame. I agree completely. My kids won't be allowed to date until 16. And where were the parents? They have to share a major part of the blame.
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Post by Arwen on Feb 5, 2009 11:08:25 GMT -5
My kids won't be allowed to date until 16. And where were the parents? They have to share a major part of the blame. While I agree that dating in 6th and 7th grade is too young, I think you are being unrealistic about the parents sharing the blame (are you talking about the victim's parents or the assaulter's parents?) here. These kids are old enough to hang out on their own. Granted, my kids wouldn't be allowed to have a whole crowd of kids over if I wasn't home (as has been reported elsewhere), but the middle school kids in my neighborhood are out and about on their own all the time. This is a horrifying incident that makes me wonder how I can keep my own kids safe, but I can't see how you can lay this at the feet of the parents beyond them not teaching their kids basic human decency and respect.
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Post by sportsmom on Feb 5, 2009 14:21:13 GMT -5
Our schools are set up to protect the assailants. Something needs to be changed. When my current 5th grader was a 1st grader at McCarty he as assaulted in the classroom by a classmate. My son had stood up to answer a question (this was during academic time). As he sat down "evil A" as I'll call him was crouched near my son's chair holding a pencil with the lead straight up on the seat. When my son sat down, the sharp lead pierced through his jeans and undies, stabbing his rear end and breaking the skin.
I was notified by a voice message at the end of the day by the principal, Mrs. Stedman saying "my child has been "poked" earlier in the day. Since I had 2 kids at McCarty I didn't even know which kid got hurt!
When the kids came home and I heard the story, I was livid! Evil A had already had a horrible reputation and caused learning disruptions regularly. I took my case all the way to Donna Crawfor and Judy Hackett (neither one are no longer with the district) and got absolutely no where. I have never had an interest in home schooling my kids. You can't even imagine how close I got to pulling my kid out of school. BUt, then that made me angry as it was not my son that was the problem. Evil A was so protected it isn't even funny. Good news he went to Young for 2nd grade. Bad news is he was back at McCarty for 3rd grade. He has since disappeared and I say Good Riddance.
My heart goes out to the Gregory boy and his family. Of course, the assailants should have to go to some "inclusion"/special school (we don't want to just dump them at another 204 school, do we?), but it will never happen and that is just plain wrong.
RE:"dating" among middle school students. Did you not all got to middle school/junior high?? Kids "go out". Basically that means they IM and text each other. They may go "out" but with groups of boys and girls and no adult really knows who "goes with who".
TO say your child will not "date" until they are 16 is a fine statement if you are thiniking of 2 folks going somewhere together by themselves (dinner, movie, putt putt, etc.). But, no parent can prevent a middle school kid from "going out" with another one. Those that aren't allowed are doing it. I have a 7th grader and I ask questions every night. "who you texting", "who's on-line now?" "does so and so still like so and so". My daughter doesn't talk so much about her self, but she'll tell me about her friends. And, if I hear something a school official (she had a friend at school who's dad throws him down stairs!) or parent should know, I will call and tell. It's part of being a parent.
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Post by majorianthrax on Feb 5, 2009 14:52:34 GMT -5
I have heard school districts are reluctent to come down hard on these 'bullies' because they are afraid of lawsuits. I have been told of instances where parents have come into their childs school meetings with attorneys for whatever reason. As bad as someone like Evil A is, the parents can get real nasty even though their kids is the aggressor. From what I have experinced the schools and the SD just don't want to deal with such situations. As far as our not letting my kids date until 16, that is just a date; going out together. Of course there will be situations in MS.
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Post by majorianthrax on Feb 6, 2009 9:36:28 GMT -5
Chicago Sun Times
February 6, 2009 By BILL BIRD / wbird@scn1.com Members of the Indian Prairie School District 204 Board of Education could be confronted during their regularly-scheduled Monday meeting by the parents of a middle school student from Naperville who was allegedly sexually assaulted off-campus last year by two classmates. Other parents concerned for the well-being and safety of their children will also reportedly attend the board meeting. It is set for 5 p.m. Monday at the Crouse Education Center at 780 Shoreline Drive in Aurora, according to the district's Web site. The Naperville Sun reported Jan. 25 on the alleged attack on an 11-year-old boy who attends Gregory Middle School, at 2621 Springdale Circle on Naperville's far south side. He was allegedly assaulted Nov. 11 in a private residence by two boys ages 11 and 12. Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow's office has filed felony charges of criminal sexual assault and criminal sexual abuse against accused youths, along with misdemeanor charges of battery. The boys will be prosecuted as juveniles. School officials late last month refused to say whether the alleged attackers have been expelled or suspended, but CBS 2 Chicago, a news partner of the Naperville Sun, reported during its Tuesday night newscast that both youths continue to attend classes. The station broadcast an interview with a man and a woman identified as the victim's parents. The audibly distraught man said the victim "has to face every day the people that violently sexually assaulted him" because they remain in school. The man said he was angry over his "expectation that when your children go to school, that every effort will be made to protect them from sex offenders." He also expressed outrage over the district's policies. Students can be expelled if they threaten or intimidate district staff members even when away from school grounds, but not if they harm or threaten their fellow students in an off-campus setting, as happened to the victim, the man said. "The message that's being sent is, do what you wish off school grounds, there'll be no penalties or punishments to you," the woman on the videotape said. District 204 Supt. Stephen Daeschner, in a statement released Wednesday to The Sun, said the alleged attack is "a legal issue that happened outside of our school, and the court has not decided an outcome." "While we wait for the legal proceedings to move forward, we are doing all we can with this sensitive situation, to ensure a safe and effective learning environment for all students," Daeschner said. "While the district can't provide specifics on student discipline matters, I assure you the school has taken action to prioritize student safety."
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Post by majorianthrax on Feb 6, 2009 9:40:50 GMT -5
This article has already been in the Sun but now has hit the Sun Times. With this kind of coverage Dr. D had better take action quickly. The IPSD is getting a poor reputation; first the boundary wars and now this. If I were a parent I would think twice before coming here.
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Post by Arwen on Feb 6, 2009 12:17:04 GMT -5
I'm curious as to what the options are if they remove the suspects from Gregory. I assume that moving them to another 204 middle school while providing relief for the victim would cause outrage (legitimate IMO) due to the potential safety concerns for the students at the new middle school. Where else can they be sent?
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Post by justvote on Feb 6, 2009 12:36:22 GMT -5
I'm curious as to what the options are if they remove the suspects from Gregory. I assume that moving them to another 204 middle school while providing relief for the victim would cause outrage (legitimate IMO) due to the potential safety concerns for the students at the new middle school. Where else can they be sent? There are options. One would be to have tutors come their home (at the district's expense, of course). I believe there is precedence for this. The School Board meeting is at 7:00 pm (not 5:00 pm as reported). The parents will be there, along with many supporters. The objective is to get the policy changed. From what I understand, District 203 already has a policy in place that addresses this situation, but District 204 does not. District 204's policy protects teachers who are threatened or assaulted off schoool grounds, but not students.
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