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Post by brant on Apr 5, 2009 8:03:27 GMT -5
By Angela Johnson, Judy Robiski and Patricia Barrett on April 4, 2009 5:57 PM As a mother to 5 children all attending Naperville schools and now 5 grand children 2 in district 203 and 3 in district 204 through my 73 years I have seen and heard much in my life. I have watched a tiny town in the middle of nowhere grow into what it is today. I have seen mayors come and go along with dear friends and family. I share many of these memories with dear life long friends who we have stuck by one another through family tragedies and all. But what I have seen and listened to in recent weeks along my dearest friends of 30 plus years only makes me sad and disappointed in the human spirit. We may be old but we are not deaf dumb and certainly not blind. We have been around the block. I have seen many a political race through the many years. Having children that live in North, East & South district 204 along with district 203, I swear I thought I had seen and heard it all especially in the last couple years. Not even my girlfriends and I can say that now. We had the pleasure of eating lunch sitting directly behind two gentleman at a well know eating establishment. The topic of discussion was the district 204 race for the school board and the April 7th and how it could structure the eventual election for President, Vice President and Secretary. They spoke of school board personnel scenarios of the election and the effect it would have on the new board. Along with their candidates they have assisted in hopes to get elected that could help him to retain his position of strength. The material being distributed door to door for this group of four was all there. What is so saddening is they spoke of their group of who they have backed and provided information for. They identified by name PTSA presidents, Vice Presidents and basically the whole PTSA board etc.. of Metea Valley and Waubonsie Valley all involved in this despicable plan to manipulate the outcome. Two of these people living in one of my daughter and grand child’s own neighborhood, all in support DeSert, Rising, Rasmus & Piehl. I have listened to my daughter speak so highly of them so I listened and was saddened. The names Mark, Sue, Dawn and Cathy were repeated consistently for well over 20 minutes of getting their vote out and stopping the others. The others they spoke extremely rudely of using very crude derogatory comments about them and their family members. Both spent time on their cell phones one speaking further on getting more people activated. What became apparently clear to all of us was the well orchestrated plan of rumors, lies and behind the scenes manipulating. Brookdale, Knoch Knoll, Breckenridge, Oakhurst, Stonebridge & Longwood were all mentioned. I may be 73 years old but three sets of ears heard and saw what we did. A President of the PTSA & Vice Presidents names was used repeatedly as a way to attack. Angie saw the map they had of color coded neighborhoods yellow was labeled with their candidate’s names. We heard the mean verbal jabs on people’s wives and how to attack candidate’s spouses. All this for a school board? In the last days we dug up who they spoke of to clear up the questions we asked one another. I was a paralegal for 25 years and understand research. We have no stake, we have no candidate, and all we have are kids and grand kids affected by your actions. We may not like all candidates but from what I have found at least this slate came forth and told you they were a slate and who they were. She may have not done the job expected of her but Chris has tried. They were both attacked with vulgar and just rude comments. But to pretend, manipulate and keep hush your plan while all the time a bigger scheme was at hand is wrong. At my age I can say, shame all of you. If you work together be honest and proud to say it. Not hide and sneak around. People have a inherit right to know. If you win and are honest about it I applaud you. But do not attack others only to align and hide. The pain the district has suffered is not enough? Instead you feel this is the remedy? The end for your group does not justify the means. Angela, Judy and I observed, what is apparent is one group the hidden slate plotted and planned and schemed with Mark M. Ultimately it is up to the public to decide the fate and begin to restore the human spirit we fear has been lost. Understanding there is a person attempting to restore his power with four people now apparently willing to help. Do not attempt to deny your actions we all know what we heard and saw. Someday you will be judged by a greater power than Mark who you have succumbed to. On that day what we all have done through the course of our lives we cannot hide from.
As for the PTSA people involved your actions are beyond inexcusable. You are in a position of responsibility to help special need kids and yet you distribute lies and purposely attack people knowing they are lies. You discuss and attempt to rig questions for the forum at City Council. How do I know all this for Angela, Judy and I took the emails you wrote from their table and have them in our possession, so we have proof of your outrageous behavior. The answer to your next question is yes you will be exposed at the appropriate time and place. Hiding behind the PTSA flag and then distributing venom is not acceptable behavior for woman in your position. All of you should do the right thing and allow the good honest parents working so hard for the PTSA to move forward and you all move along. That is your choice, but so is it ours to publish your hate. The decision is yours for now. The most chilling of all is all these people working so hard to spread hate and lies when our community needs to heal. All for the power you and your hidden slate yearn to control. Do to the mean and vengeful retribution we have seen occurs from persons we witnessed, we have used our maiden names to protect our grandchildren and children from any actions against them.
We are saddened by all your actions. Respectfully Angela Johnson, Judy Robiski and Patricia Barrett
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Post by warriorpride on Apr 5, 2009 8:08:14 GMT -5
By Angela Johnson, Judy Robiski and Patricia Barrett on April 4, 2009 5:57 PM As a mother to 5 children all attending Naperville schools and now 5 grand children 2 in district 203 and 3 in district 204 through my 73 years I have seen and heard much in my life. I have watched a tiny town in the middle of nowhere grow into what it is today. I have seen mayors come and go along with dear friends and family. I share many of these memories with dear life long friends who we have stuck by one another through family tragedies and all. But what I have seen and listened to in recent weeks along my dearest friends of 30 plus years only makes me sad and disappointed in the human spirit. We may be old but we are not deaf dumb and certainly not blind. We have been around the block. I have seen many a political race through the many years. Having children that live in North, East & South district 204 along with district 203, I swear I thought I had seen and heard it all especially in the last couple years. Not even my girlfriends and I can say that now. We had the pleasure of eating lunch sitting directly behind two gentleman at a well know eating establishment. The topic of discussion was the district 204 race for the school board and the April 7th and how it could structure the eventual election for President, Vice President and Secretary. They spoke of school board personnel scenarios of the election and the effect it would have on the new board. Along with their candidates they have assisted in hopes to get elected that could help him to retain his position of strength. The material being distributed door to door for this group of four was all there. What is so saddening is they spoke of their group of who they have backed and provided information for. They identified by name PTSA presidents, Vice Presidents and basically the whole PTSA board etc.. of Metea Valley and Waubonsie Valley all involved in this despicable plan to manipulate the outcome. Two of these people living in one of my daughter and grand child’s own neighborhood, all in support DeSert, Rising, Rasmus & Piehl. I have listened to my daughter speak so highly of them so I listened and was saddened. The names Mark, Sue, Dawn and Cathy were repeated consistently for well over 20 minutes of getting their vote out and stopping the others. The others they spoke extremely rudely of using very crude derogatory comments about them and their family members. Both spent time on their cell phones one speaking further on getting more people activated. What became apparently clear to all of us was the well orchestrated plan of rumors, lies and behind the scenes manipulating. Brookdale, Knoch Knoll, Breckenridge, Oakhurst, Stonebridge & Longwood were all mentioned. I may be 73 years old but three sets of ears heard and saw what we did. A President of the PTSA & Vice Presidents names was used repeatedly as a way to attack. Angie saw the map they had of color coded neighborhoods yellow was labeled with their candidate’s names. We heard the mean verbal jabs on people’s wives and how to attack candidate’s spouses. All this for a school board? In the last days we dug up who they spoke of to clear up the questions we asked one another. I was a paralegal for 25 years and understand research. We have no stake, we have no candidate, and all we have are kids and grand kids affected by your actions. We may not like all candidates but from what I have found at least this slate came forth and told you they were a slate and who they were. She may have not done the job expected of her but Chris has tried. They were both attacked with vulgar and just rude comments. But to pretend, manipulate and keep hush your plan while all the time a bigger scheme was at hand is wrong. At my age I can say, shame all of you. If you work together be honest and proud to say it. Not hide and sneak around. People have a inherit right to know. If you win and are honest about it I applaud you. But do not attack others only to align and hide. The pain the district has suffered is not enough? Instead you feel this is the remedy? The end for your group does not justify the means. Angela, Judy and I observed, what is apparent is one group the hidden slate plotted and planned and schemed with Mark M. Ultimately it is up to the public to decide the fate and begin to restore the human spirit we fear has been lost. Understanding there is a person attempting to restore his power with four people now apparently willing to help. Do not attempt to deny your actions we all know what we heard and saw. Someday you will be judged by a greater power than Mark who you have succumbed to. On that day what we all have done through the course of our lives we cannot hide from. As for the PTSA people involved your actions are beyond inexcusable. You are in a position of responsibility to help special need kids and yet you distribute lies and purposely attack people knowing they are lies. You discuss and attempt to rig questions for the forum at City Council. How do I know all this for Angela, Judy and I took the emails you wrote from their table and have them in our possession, so we have proof of your outrageous behavior. The answer to your next question is yes you will be exposed at the appropriate time and place. Hiding behind the PTSA flag and then distributing venom is not acceptable behavior for woman in your position. All of you should do the right thing and allow the good honest parents working so hard for the PTSA to move forward and you all move along. That is your choice, but so is it ours to publish your hate. The decision is yours for now. The most chilling of all is all these people working so hard to spread hate and lies when our community needs to heal. All for the power you and your hidden slate yearn to control. Do to the mean and vengeful retribution we have seen occurs from persons we witnessed, we have used our maiden names to protect our grandchildren and children from any actions against them. We are saddened by all your actions. Respectfully Angela Johnson, Judy Robiski and Patricia Barrett IMO, yet another attempt to deflect from the truth thats come out about the fab4 with lies & distractions - it's getting worse each day - again, I look forward to Wednesday - the irony is that crap like this is exactly the vengeful, hateful, dividing BS that the post writes about - and, really, is an SB position so coveted? seem like 1/2 the the people elected to the position quit before their term is up
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Post by brant on Apr 5, 2009 8:16:08 GMT -5
There is a question as to how true this really is. Even so why would they place so much value on a conversation between two strangers they don't even know as to judge an entire group of people? There is no reason to post this unless it is to stir up trouble and they are obviously supporting one group of candidates. Ah, well that is District #204. Conspiracies and paranoia abound. Like a soap opera.
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Post by brant on Apr 5, 2009 8:19:11 GMT -5
A Message from Bruce Rodman, SB Member 2003 - 2006 « Thread Started on Apr 2, 2009, 7:09pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A message from Bruce Rodman, Indian Prairie School District 204 Board of Education Member from 2003 to 2006.
From having served on the District 204 school board, I know that it can be a difficult job. It’s not for everyone, which is why simply deciding to run in the first place is something to be admired. It represents a commitment that that most people are unwilling to make. For this reason, all of the candidates should be evaluated on a fair, individual basis, with people basing their votes on facts and reason, not distortions or fear mongering. After studying the candidates, I have decided to support Eric Hepburn, Don Moscato, Jerry Huang and Doug DiFusco.
I know there are some people who are concerned that they are running as a slate. I also know that unofficial slates, comprised of incumbents and recruited candidates, have been very common in the district. Some people are concerned that they have been endorsed by the teachers’ union. In years past, when the union endorsed incumbents or their favored candidates, no one thought twice about it. Much of this concern is based strictly on maintaining the status quo. In many ways, the status quo is not that bad – we are fortunate to have an excellent school district. However, I believe that Eric, Don, Jerry and Doug aren’t simply satisfied with the status quo, but want to make the district better.
I am confident they will improve transparency and value input from all stakeholders – teachers and district staff, parents and taxpayers – and not just the ones who know how to toe the party line. They will then take that input and make their decisions in an honest, open manner. Not everyone may agree with those decisions, but at least no one will be surprised or feel disenfranchised. I’m convinced that they will bring about a meaningful improvement in the leadership of our district, demonstrating accountability, respect and, when necessary, compassion.
District 204 is going to face some financial challenges in the coming years, at a time when many of our residents are already struggling with unemployment, reduced pay and declining property values. These four candidates recognize that the legends of Indian Prairie are not the school board members or administrators who presided over building any number of schools. Rather, the true legends are the taxpayers and parents who funded those schools, the teachers who work in them, and their students, who will go on to accomplished, fulfilling lives.
Because they represent meaningful change our District needs, this April 7 I will vote for Eric Hepburn, Don Moscato, Jerry Huang and Doug DiFusco to serve on the Indian Prairie School District 204 Board of Education.
Bruce Rodman
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Post by brant on Apr 5, 2009 8:24:52 GMT -5
I have a few thoughts on the Rodman message. First off I always respected the guy when he served. However here he talks about people being disenfranchised. True the SW part of the district has felt that way during the past several years and with good reason. However if the 'slate' is elected the split between North and South will widen considerably. Again while I respect the guy I don't believe he is thinking of the entire SD.
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Post by warriorpride on Apr 5, 2009 8:26:29 GMT -5
A Message from Bruce Rodman, SB Member 2003 - 2006 « Thread Started on Apr 2, 2009, 7:09pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A message from Bruce Rodman, Indian Prairie School District 204 Board of Education Member from 2003 to 2006. Anyone else think that it's odd for an ex-SB member (and one that resigned his position) to endorse candidates for the SB? Seems like most SB members, once they are gone are "out-of-site, out-of-mind" and/or "good-riddance" (I'm recalling that some people had some parting shots for Bruce as he resigned his position).
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Post by gatormom on Apr 5, 2009 8:32:43 GMT -5
There is a question as to how true this really is. Even so why would they place so much value on a conversation between two strangers they don't even know as to judge an entire group of people? There is no reason to post this unless it is to stir up trouble and they are obviously supporting one group of candidates. Ah, well that is District #204. Conspiracies and paranoia abound. Like a soap opera. The last few days of a D204 SB election, let the mudslinging begin. What amazes me about this blog entry is that you have a group of women who will "reveal all" when the time is right. If ever the time is right, it is before someone is elected. So why not turn the "evidence" over to the news media? Oh probably because it doesn't exist. I am with Warriorpride, can't wait until Wednesday.
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Post by Arwen on Apr 5, 2009 9:38:18 GMT -5
I've figured it out! To avoid any of the BS associated with this election, I will have to vote for Wagner, Y. Huang and Strick. They are the only ones who aren't guilty by association!
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Post by warriormom on Apr 5, 2009 11:55:11 GMT -5
I think the whole blog post seems suspiscious.
so, I have made some calls and have been told that the two men at this meeting were Mark Metzger and Mark Rising. Can anyone verify this?
Perhaps someone who is helping Rising with his campaign can answer with a "yes" or "no"...did Mark Rising have a meeting at a restaurant with M2 and clear this up.
Can't wait til Wednesday.
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Post by gatormom on Apr 5, 2009 12:29:45 GMT -5
I think the whole blog post seems suspiscious. so, I have made some calls and have been told that the two men at this meeting were Mark Metzger and Mark Rising. Can anyone verify this? Perhaps someone who is helping Rising with his campaign can answer with a "yes" or "no"...did Mark Rising have a meeting at a restaurant with M2 and clear this up. Can't wait til Wednesday. Gotta love rumors. Plant a seed and see where it goes. Is this from the same rumor mill that had Dr. D. putting his house up for sale and heading off into the sunset? I have only spoken to Mark Rising a few times, I cannot see him meeting with M2 at all. I guess we will have to wait for someone close to him to report. But then maybe the damage has already been done.
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Post by 4for4 on Apr 5, 2009 12:58:11 GMT -5
I think the whole blog post seems suspiscious. so, I have made some calls and have been told that the two men at this meeting were Mark Metzger and Mark Rising. Can anyone verify this? Perhaps someone who is helping Rising with his campaign can answer with a "yes" or "no"...did Mark Rising have a meeting at a restaurant with M2 and clear this up. Can't wait til Wednesday. You're right this is suspicious. As if any candidate (or anybody for that matter) would sit in a "well known eating establishment" with MM these days. I also find it odd that 70+ year old women eating lunch could hear the whole conversation next to them. Not only hear but remember as much as they did where you would think they were taking minutes of the meeting. Please stop the nonsense, FUD and immature politicking. Maybe those who are doing this (on both sides) could help Blago in his defense. If you believe Grandma & Friends then I won't tell you the Easter Bunny isn't real along with Santa and the tooth fairy ;D
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Post by eb204 on Apr 5, 2009 13:46:05 GMT -5
I think the whole blog post seems suspiscious. so, I have made some calls and have been told that the two men at this meeting were Mark Metzger and Mark Rising. Can anyone verify this? Perhaps someone who is helping Rising with his campaign can answer with a "yes" or "no"...did Mark Rising have a meeting at a restaurant with M2 and clear this up. Can't wait til Wednesday. I'm not "helping Rising with his campaign", but know him personally and have spoken with him recently. He has not had breakfast, lunch, or anything else with Metzger.
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Post by justvote on Apr 5, 2009 14:00:30 GMT -5
I can also confirm via a conversation with two separate people who spoke directly to Mark Rising about this very issue that Mark Rising did not meet with Mark Metzger.
The blog from the "grannys" uses way too much "insider" type terminology to be real (IMHO). At least it was placed in the right area (Rumors, FUD, gossip).
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Post by warriorpride on Apr 5, 2009 15:02:27 GMT -5
I can also confirm via a conversation with two separate people who spoke directly to Mark Rising about this very issue that Mark Rising did not meet with Mark Metzger. The blog from the "grannys" uses way too much "insider" type terminology to be real (IMHO). At least it was placed in the right area (Rumors, FUD, gossip). Seriously, though, how many grannies post in discussion forums? what a crock - the fiction like this that's been coming out recently seems to be aimed at the fab4's main competition, especially since the facts about the fab4's non-tranparent funding has been exposed
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Post by steckdad on Apr 5, 2009 19:58:34 GMT -5
By Angela Johnson, Judy Robiski and Patricia Barrett on April 4, 2009 5:57 PM As a mother to 5 children all attending Naperville schools and now 5 grand children 2 in district 203 and 3 in district 204 through my 73 years I have seen and heard much in my life. I have watched a tiny town in the middle of nowhere grow into what it is today. I have seen mayors come and go along with dear friends and family. I share many of these memories with dear life long friends who we have stuck by one another through family tragedies and all. But what I have seen and listened to in recent weeks along my dearest friends of 30 plus years only makes me sad and disappointed in the human spirit. We may be old but we are not deaf dumb and certainly not blind. We have been around the block. I have seen many a political race through the many years. Having children that live in North, East & South district 204 along with district 203, I swear I thought I had seen and heard it all especially in the last couple years. Not even my girlfriends and I can say that now. We had the pleasure of eating lunch sitting directly behind two gentleman at a well know eating establishment. The topic of discussion was the district 204 race for the school board and the April 7th and how it could structure the eventual election for President, Vice President and Secretary. They spoke of school board personnel scenarios of the election and the effect it would have on the new board. Along with their candidates they have assisted in hopes to get elected that could help him to retain his position of strength. The material being distributed door to door for this group of four was all there. What is so saddening is they spoke of their group of who they have backed and provided information for. They identified by name PTSA presidents, Vice Presidents and basically the whole PTSA board etc.. of Metea Valley and Waubonsie Valley all involved in this despicable plan to manipulate the outcome. Two of these people living in one of my daughter and grand child’s own neighborhood, all in support DeSert, Rising, Rasmus & Piehl. I have listened to my daughter speak so highly of them so I listened and was saddened. The names Mark, Sue, Dawn and Cathy were repeated consistently for well over 20 minutes of getting their vote out and stopping the others. The others they spoke extremely rudely of using very crude derogatory comments about them and their family members. Both spent time on their cell phones one speaking further on getting more people activated. What became apparently clear to all of us was the well orchestrated plan of rumors, lies and behind the scenes manipulating. Brookdale, Knoch Knoll, Breckenridge, Oakhurst, Stonebridge & Longwood were all mentioned. I may be 73 years old but three sets of ears heard and saw what we did. A President of the PTSA & Vice Presidents names was used repeatedly as a way to attack. Angie saw the map they had of color coded neighborhoods yellow was labeled with their candidate’s names. We heard the mean verbal jabs on people’s wives and how to attack candidate’s spouses. All this for a school board? In the last days we dug up who they spoke of to clear up the questions we asked one another. I was a paralegal for 25 years and understand research. We have no stake, we have no candidate, and all we have are kids and grand kids affected by your actions. We may not like all candidates but from what I have found at least this slate came forth and told you they were a slate and who they were. She may have not done the job expected of her but Chris has tried. They were both attacked with vulgar and just rude comments. But to pretend, manipulate and keep hush your plan while all the time a bigger scheme was at hand is wrong. At my age I can say, shame all of you. If you work together be honest and proud to say it. Not hide and sneak around. People have a inherit right to know. If you win and are honest about it I applaud you. But do not attack others only to align and hide. The pain the district has suffered is not enough? Instead you feel this is the remedy? The end for your group does not justify the means. Angela, Judy and I observed, what is apparent is one group the hidden slate plotted and planned and schemed with Mark M. Ultimately it is up to the public to decide the fate and begin to restore the human spirit we fear has been lost. Understanding there is a person attempting to restore his power with four people now apparently willing to help. Do not attempt to deny your actions we all know what we heard and saw. Someday you will be judged by a greater power than Mark who you have succumbed to. On that day what we all have done through the course of our lives we cannot hide from. As for the PTSA people involved your actions are beyond inexcusable. You are in a position of responsibility to help special need kids and yet you distribute lies and purposely attack people knowing they are lies. You discuss and attempt to rig questions for the forum at City Council. How do I know all this for Angela, Judy and I took the emails you wrote from their table and have them in our possession, so we have proof of your outrageous behavior. The answer to your next question is yes you will be exposed at the appropriate time and place. Hiding behind the PTSA flag and then distributing venom is not acceptable behavior for woman in your position. All of you should do the right thing and allow the good honest parents working so hard for the PTSA to move forward and you all move along. That is your choice, but so is it ours to publish your hate. The decision is yours for now. The most chilling of all is all these people working so hard to spread hate and lies when our community needs to heal. All for the power you and your hidden slate yearn to control. Do to the mean and vengeful retribution we have seen occurs from persons we witnessed, we have used our maiden names to protect our grandchildren and children from any actions against them. We are saddened by all your actions. Respectfully Angela Johnson, Judy Robiski and Patricia Barrett rather than calling this Rumors, FUD, and gossip...I will call it what it is.....RUBBISH
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