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Post by warriorpride on May 20, 2008 13:19:04 GMT -5
I have an idea: when a 204 school gets acclaimed for something, how about if nobody tries to shoot it down or reduce the significance of it? Just a thought I agree but if someone does then you or I can't change that...so no point in going around and around. thanks for the feedback, but each of us will decide how to respond on our own
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Post by warriorpride on May 20, 2008 13:19:50 GMT -5
What sort of things go into these rankings and how do they affect admissions? I really have a hard time imagining that a college recruiter would look differently at a top 5% of WV grad vs. top 5% of NV with similar classes and grades. Take the time as I have done and speak with a college admissions officer....not the recruiters. Many schools take the application and perspective students are awarded points for categories. Often your GPA is multiplied by a number (based on the high school) which will give you a new number to be used ib your total points being used to determine admission. I am not saying that the WV number is bad vs the NV number....but for the 2 schools I spoke to the NV, NC and NN numbers are higher than WV. what are the numbers ?
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Post by warriorpride on May 20, 2008 13:21:51 GMT -5
I have an idea: when a 204 school gets acclaimed for something, how about if nobody tries to shoot it down or reduce the significance of it? Just a thought If a publication came out and said that Naperville was one of the most affluent Chicagoland suburbs, but Hinsdale, Glencoe, and Kenilworth were not on the list, one would question why. The skepticism wouldn't be a reflection on Naperville, but rather on why the others were excluded. Same thing here. there were a lot of good Illinois HSs on the list - sorry you're not happy with this list - if NV was on this instead of WV would you have devalued the list?
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Post by asmodeus on May 20, 2008 14:31:04 GMT -5
If a publication came out and said that Naperville was one of the most affluent Chicagoland suburbs, but Hinsdale, Glencoe, and Kenilworth were not on the list, one would question why. The skepticism wouldn't be a reflection on Naperville, but rather on why the others were excluded. Same thing here. there were a lot of good Illinois HSs on the list - sorry you're not happy with this list - if NV was on this instead of WV would you have devalued the list? If NV was on it, but New Trier wasn't, then yes.
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Post by warriorpride on May 20, 2008 14:50:27 GMT -5
there were a lot of good Illinois HSs on the list - sorry you're not happy with this list - if NV was on this instead of WV would you have devalued the list? If NV was on it, but New Trier wasn't, then yes. Did you even read the article & FAQs about the metrics used?
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Post by asmodeus on May 20, 2008 15:18:23 GMT -5
Sure, why do you ask?
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Post by gatormom on May 20, 2008 15:50:54 GMT -5
In our society don't we all pick the community we live in? Our children spend more time in school then at home (not including sleep time). Why frown on those that opt for a certain environment for their children? I have spoken to so many MINORITY families that would agree thta you do pick it! While we may chose the community we live in, WV and NV are still public schools. The boundaries are what they are. For someone who doesn't appreciate WV's enviroment, they can home school or go private.
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Post by warriorpride on May 20, 2008 16:04:48 GMT -5
do you have specific issues with the metrics used or is the list not valid because some of the IL schools from your "good" list aren't on it?
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Post by warriorpride on May 20, 2008 16:06:04 GMT -5
What sort of things go into these rankings and how do they affect admissions? I really have a hard time imagining that a college recruiter would look differently at a top 5% of WV grad vs. top 5% of NV with similar classes and grades. Take the time as I have done and speak with a college admissions officer....not the recruiters. Many schools take the application and perspective students are awarded points for categories. Often your GPA is multiplied by a number (based on the high school) which will give you a new number to be used ib your total points being used to determine admission. I am not saying that the WV number is bad vs the NV number....but for the 2 schools I spoke to the NV, NC and NN numbers are higher than WV. \3woodgal, I'm curious, why did you do this (speak with a college admissions officers)?
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Post by specialneedsmom on May 20, 2008 17:44:24 GMT -5
3woodgal, I grew up in Paterson, NJ where Joe Clark was principal at Eastside HS. That was who Morgan Freeman portrayed in the movie. Now that was a tough school. He was principal after would have attended had my parents not opted to send me to private school. My parents stayed in the community though since my dad had a business there and refused to leave (despite being mugged, robbed, and held up at gunpoint) and that's where I grew up. Believe me, both our high schools are paradise compared to that environment. Despite many challenges, they are a safe, nurturing place to get an education.
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Post by 3woodgal on May 20, 2008 19:31:40 GMT -5
I agree but if someone does then you or I can't change that...so no point in going around and around. thanks for the feedback, but each of us will decide how to respond on our own You are welcome!
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Post by 3woodgal on May 20, 2008 19:33:24 GMT -5
Take the time as I have done and speak with a college admissions officer....not the recruiters. Many schools take the application and perspective students are awarded points for categories. Often your GPA is multiplied by a number (based on the high school) which will give you a new number to be used ib your total points being used to determine admission. I am not saying that the WV number is bad vs the NV number....but for the 2 schools I spoke to the NV, NC and NN numbers are higher than WV. what are the numbers ? It is easy to place a call.....my contact told me that this is not secret information. I did not write them down..... But in all seriousness, just take the time to call a school of your choice and delve deeper to get your answer since you don't believe me. Guess my contact lied to me (what is in it for them to do so is beyond me though)?
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Post by 3woodgal on May 20, 2008 19:36:07 GMT -5
Take the time as I have done and speak with a college admissions officer....not the recruiters. Many schools take the application and perspective students are awarded points for categories. Often your GPA is multiplied by a number (based on the high school) which will give you a new number to be used ib your total points being used to determine admission. I am not saying that the WV number is bad vs the NV number....but for the 2 schools I spoke to the NV, NC and NN numbers are higher than WV. \3woodgal, I'm curious, why did you do this (speak with a college admissions officers)? I know one personally so not a big dealto get the answer. Hey if you have connections that have the answers, then why would I not ask. Your question makes no sense. Like I said, call for yourself.
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Post by 3woodgal on May 20, 2008 19:39:08 GMT -5
3woodgal, I grew up in Paterson, NJ where Joe Clark was principal at Eastside HS. That was who Morgan Freeman portrayed in the movie. Now that was a tough school. He was principal after would have attended had my parents not opted to send me to private school. My parents stayed in the community though since my dad had a business there and refused to leave (despite being mugged, robbed, and held up at gunpoint) and that's where I grew up. Believe me, both our high schools are paradise compared to that environment. Despite many challenges, they are a safe, nurturing place to get an education. While I agree that Eastside HS is not the same exact environment, there are children that require that extra mile from our faculty. It has been stated by other posters that the problem is in the fact of several struggling students not having parents at home. If we know as as district we have a problem, then it is up to our administration to do whatever is necessary to get these children to perform at a higher level, when possible. That is exactly what Joe Clark did and I commend that from him and other school administrators that have done so as well.
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Post by warriorpride on May 20, 2008 20:05:59 GMT -5
It is easy to place a call.....my contact told me that this is not secret information. I did not write them down..... But in all seriousness, just take the time to call a school of your choice and delve deeper to get your answer since you don't believe me. Guess my contact lied to me (what is in it for them to do so is beyond me though)? I asked what I thought was a simple question. I didn't question whether or not it was true. Just wanted to see what the difference was. I'd find it hard to believe that it was anything other than a very small difference - that's the reason I asked.
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