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Post by gatordog on Jul 7, 2008 14:07:18 GMT -5
Please show how no one got the short end of the stick on splits.Someone got split, therefore it's not across the board and not equitable to everyone in the district. I can answer that one! I have been thinking about that....short answer is no splits (or further minimizing splits) puts other criteria out of whack. and I can and will show you how I figured this sometimes....but not today!
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Post by Arch on Jul 7, 2008 14:11:39 GMT -5
Please show how no one got the short end of the stick on splits.Someone got split, therefore it's not across the board and not equitable to everyone in the district. I can answer that one! I have been thinking about that....short answer is no splits (or further minimizing splits) puts other criteria out of whack. and I can and will show you how I figured this sometimes....but not today! Does the current boundary plan have splits? Added: Let's make this easier-- The reason for not wanting splits is what?
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Post by gatormom on Jul 8, 2008 7:26:24 GMT -5
Much easier to quote the district's document regarding the hiring of Dr. D. www.ipsd.org/suptsearch/Board_Supt_Statement_021507.pdfThe final source of unease shared with the Board was the fact that the Louisville Board chose, after 14 years, not to renew Dr. Daeschner’s contract. We know that there are all kinds of reasons that a Board can choose not to renew a contract, particularly on a 4-3 vote. We’ve spoken with Jefferson County Board members, their principals, their parents, the community leaders and many people knowledgeable about the district. We are quite comfortable that the Jefferson County Board’s decision not to renew Dr. Daeschner’s contract is part of the political reality that comes with a Board elected by geographic divisions and does not speak to his professional abilities in any way.And I repeat, what were the circumstances surrounding this 'political reality' with regards to these geographic 'divisions' ? Jefferson County SB is elected by geographic areas. There is a whole different view to a district with that structure. I have no idea why 4 SB members in Jefferson County felt letting Dr. D. go was necessary but they did. I would guess that it had a lot to do with the areas of the district they represented, after all they need support from their own area to get re-elected. Our SB as one voted to hire him. If even one of them thought he was not the appropriate candidate, we would have heard about it.
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Post by wvhsparent on Jul 8, 2008 8:48:12 GMT -5
there was a reason BB was the site chosen the first time - I agree. Instead of 'settling' for Hamman or MACOM, I would have wanted them to both be passed on also - but because they were 'potentials' boundary - transportation scenarios for each certainly were discussed - and plotted out. Which one created the sterling educational institution? Macom or Hamman? Oh, interesting a-l-b-a-t-r-o-s-s gets re-written like above. The 'filters' on here are annoying at best. But they are our filters..... I guess we all have our own different annoyances and ways of handling them.
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Post by wvhsparent on Jul 8, 2008 8:54:19 GMT -5
And I repeat, what were the circumstances surrounding this 'political reality' with regards to these geographic 'divisions' ? Jefferson County SB is elected by geographic areas. There is a whole different view to a district with that structure. I have no idea why 4 SB members in Jefferson County felt letting Dr. D. go was necessary but they did. I would guess that it had a lot to do with the areas of the district they represented, after all they need support from their own area to get re-elected. Our SB as one voted to hire him. If even one of them thought he was not the appropriate candidate, we would have heard about it. It was an "unease" that a lot of folks (myself included) shared. We noted it before. Our SB decided they were comfortable with their choice. Overall I don't think the dash was a terrible choice, but maybe not the best choice either. Seeing as we know even less about the other "finalists", we have no way of knowing if dash was the best choice remaining at that time. However as he was the one chosen I would assume he was.
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Post by specialneedsmom on Jul 8, 2008 11:17:47 GMT -5
The anti-Howie was chosen.
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Post by gatordog on Jul 8, 2008 11:18:10 GMT -5
Jefferson County SB is elected by geographic areas. There is a whole different view to a district with that structure. I have no idea why 4 SB members in Jefferson County felt letting Dr. D. go was necessary but they did. I would guess that it had a lot to do with the areas of the district they represented, after all they need support from their own area to get re-elected. Our SB as one voted to hire him. If even one of them thought he was not the appropriate candidate, we would have heard about it. It was an "unease" that a lot of folks (myself included) shared. We noted it before. Our SB decided they were comfortable with their choice. Overall I don't think the dash was a terrible choice, but maybe not the best choice either. Seeing as we know even less about the other "finalists", we have no way of knowing if dash was the best choice remaining at that time. However as he was the one chosen I would assume he was. We all should know that Jefferson Co Ky schools have a long and difficult history with desegregation issues, court involvement, manditory busing, etc. Dating back to at least the early 1970s. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_County_Public_Schools_(Kentucky)Dealing with geographic divisions and political reality there was a challenging part of that SD's Superintendant work long before Dr. D was on the job. I am not going to map too much of his handling of those issues in Ky to 204. Any so-called geographic divisions in 204 utterly pale in contrast to what they have in Ky. I think we need him to be more of an education "wonk", and I think that is what he was hired to do. (Little did we know all these 3rd HS politics were going to hit so hard during the dash's first yr )
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Post by eb204 on Jul 8, 2008 11:31:18 GMT -5
The anti-Howie was chosen. Sure, he's much different than Howie. But more importantly, when Howie was here, he was in the throws of a LOT of growth. Therefore, the emphasis was on getting more and more schools built, particularly elementary schools as the growth of this area continued. There wasn't a lot of attention being given to improving curriculum or other programs because quite frankly, we seemed to be drawing people to our schools regardless. Now that the schools are built, the administration can go back to doing what it does best - educate our children. And I'm sure Howie would have done a fine job in that as well, as he has in the past, but he was done and ready to move on. To fill that role, the board looked to someone who has obviously proven to them that he was up for the task. And with the changes he's made (technology, all day K, middle school schedules, etc. ), I'd say he certainly has fulfilled their expectations. Howie was very well respected and liked in this district, but change isn't always a bad thing.
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Post by Arch on Jul 8, 2008 14:05:36 GMT -5
Which one created the sterling educational institution? Macom or Hamman? Oh, interesting a-l-b-a-t-r-o-s-s gets re-written like above. The 'filters' on here are annoying at best. But they are our filters..... I guess we all have our own different annoyances and ways of handling them. ...And they are a tribute to the bias of the personal annoyances made manifest and are overlaid on everyone who posts. That is contrary to the news banner about the goal being to have discussions for people from all over 204. Those filters overwrite and change people's posts and the recognize/replace list is based on YOUR (singular and plural) personal annoyances. You're right though, they are yours to doink with to your own amusement.
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Post by wvhsparent on Jul 8, 2008 14:28:43 GMT -5
But they are our filters..... I guess we all have our own different annoyances and ways of handling them. ...And they are a tribute to the bias of the personal annoyances made manifest and are overlaid on everyone who posts. That is contrary to the news banner about the goal being to have discussions for people from all over 204. Those filters overwrite and change people's posts and the recognize/replace list is based on YOUR (singular and plural) personal annoyances. You're right though, they are yours to doink with to your own amusement. in your opinion. If you have not figured out how to have a discussion without using certain words, then you are not the wordsmith I thought you to be.
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Post by Arch on Jul 8, 2008 14:36:07 GMT -5
...And they are a tribute to the bias of the personal annoyances made manifest and are overlaid on everyone who posts. That is contrary to the news banner about the goal being to have discussions for people from all over 204. Those filters overwrite and change people's posts and the recognize/replace list is based on YOUR (singular and plural) personal annoyances. You're right though, they are yours to doink with to your own amusement. in your opinion. If you have not figured out how to have a discussion without using certain words, then you are not the wordsmith I thought you to be. Are they ARCH-ONLY filters or do they apply to anyone who posts here now and in the future (new people) ? I know the answer, but think about it for a moment.
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Post by asmodeus on Jul 8, 2008 18:44:33 GMT -5
That statement makes no sense to me.
I think you're giving Dr. D way too much credit. The accomplishments you cite don't represent revolutionary thinking in my opinion, and some were probably inevitable. I must concede, however, that I am biased against the trend of hiring superintendent retreads from other districts who are either not rehired from their previous jobs, or are "retired" in name only to collect pensions from multiple districts.
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Post by specialneedsmom on Jul 8, 2008 19:41:26 GMT -5
Asmodeus - does that stand for one smart dude?
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Post by eb204 on Jul 8, 2008 20:40:59 GMT -5
That statement makes no sense to me. I think you're giving Dr. D way too much credit. The accomplishments you cite don't represent revolutionary thinking in my opinion, and some were probably inevitable. I must concede, however, that I am biased against the trend of hiring superintendent retreads from other districts who are either not rehired from their previous jobs, or are "retired" in name only to collect pensions from multiple districts. I never said the changes were revolutionary. I simply said that the board expectations have obviously been met since they are the ones who ultimately hire for that position. They are the ones who interviewed candidates and traveled to other districts to talk to them. If you don't like who they chose, tell them.
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Post by eb204 on Jul 8, 2008 21:39:52 GMT -5
Asmodeus - does that stand for one smart dude? No, but more appropriately defined here. From Winkpedia: Asmodai or Asmodeus (see below for other variations) is a demon mostly known from the deuterocanonical Book of Tobit.
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