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Post by warriorpride on Mar 3, 2008 12:48:42 GMT -5
I just wonder at what point is improvement maxed out, especially in the more transient areas. Areas of apartments, condos, and maybe even townhomes likely have lower, or at least more inconsistant, scores from year to year. If you "fix" achievement one year, followed by a lot of turnover, aren't you back to square one the next year?
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Post by gandalf on Mar 3, 2008 13:22:47 GMT -5
I just wonder at what point is improvement maxed out, especially in the more transient areas. Areas of apartments, condos, and maybe even townhomes likely have lower, or at least more inconsistant, scores from year to year. If you "fix" achievement one year, followed by a lot of turnover, aren't you back to square one the next year? I agree that somewhere the law of dimishing returns will take effect on scores. In doing a quick check of last years ISAT's with the state average being 78.7 , and IPSD 204 being 92.0 -- others nearby: Naperville 203 94.3 Downers Grove 91.4 Lombard 88.7 Wheaton 92.6 Plainfield 84.8 Oswego 85.6 Hinsdale 96.6 seems as though we're right in the mix. Now we are up from 91.1 the previous year.
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Post by gatordog on Mar 3, 2008 15:19:52 GMT -5
Thanks for the scores, gandalf. Interesting info.
My thing with this test score stuff is fundamentally I dont care really what, for example, the 8th gr at this MS or the 5th grade at that ES does year to year to year, I want INDIVIDUAL students to be improving themselves year to year. I understand these comparisions have value for adminstrators and teachers working on doing their job better. But for me, they way its discussed and presented, its more from a district or school or class "bragging rights" thing.
What I really want to see is... what was the change in each grade level. Are they improving as they move along through school? Yeah, i guess I could figure this out with multi-year data, but that sure doesnt seem to be the way its directly presented. I guess the presentation is all about NCLB lingo and demands.
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