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Post by wvhsparent on Nov 13, 2008 0:03:40 GMT -5
courtesy of rew on blue........
Since there was a discussion about portables at Young next year, I pulled out my dreaded capacity sheet from the district website dated 1/31/2008 (it's current)
I used the recently released 2008/09 enrollment figures to see the crowding or lack of at each building...
I will quote the 90% capacity figures which the district uses as ideal.
This chart is 90%capacity vs actual 08/09 enrollment = difference
Brookdale 585 vs 521 = 64
Brooks 765 662 103
Builta 765 705 60
Clow 585 451 134
Cowlishaw 765 669 96
Fry 855 851 4
Georgetown 630 621 9
Gombert 585 523 62
Graham 765 631 134
Kendall 765 701 64
Longwood 428 416 16
McCarty 765 639 126
Owen 765 566 199
Patterson 855 701 154
Peterson 765 472 293
Springbrook 855 807 48
Steck 765 698 67
Watts 765 595 170
Welch 855 856 - 1
White Eagle 765 558 207
Young 765 796 - 31
I agree here, there seems to be space at other nearby schools.
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Post by Arwen on Nov 13, 2008 0:26:05 GMT -5
It isn't that easy. They already broke 1 or 2 subdivisions off of Young and sent 1 to Brooks (I think MW maybe got another?). The subdivisions left are:
Gingerwoods and Cambridge Countryside (Butterfield west of Eola) Oakhurst North (Young's actual location) Cambridge Chase and Concord Valley (2 subdivisions immediately south of MV which are very contiguous)
With the exception of Gingerwoods, these are all pretty good sized subdivisions with many younger families that would force Brooks or Steck over capacity just as Young is. Gingerwoods isn't very big, and half of it is not 204. The obvious answer would be to send Gingerwoods to Brooks to alleviate the crowding at Young, but then you'd have a Young subdivision (Cambridge Countryside) sandwiched in between 2 Brooks subdivisions (Gingerwoods and Butterfield). That would be ugly IMO.
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Post by wvhsparent on Nov 13, 2008 1:11:52 GMT -5
I never said it would be easy.......
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Post by momto4 on Nov 13, 2008 8:02:55 GMT -5
I never said it would be easy....... I agree Young should not have this problem. But what would you suggest? Usually contiguous areas are kept in ES together where possible. I also wonder about the capacity numbers, were we previously counting kindergartners as half students or what? And is there actually any unused classroom space at the schools mentioned or space that could be rearranged to create some?
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Post by JWH on Nov 13, 2008 8:44:53 GMT -5
Get rid of ADK and problem solved, right?
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Post by gatormom on Nov 13, 2008 8:51:55 GMT -5
Get rid of ADK and problem solved, right? Exactly but I wonder how popular that would be. As much as some parents would prefer it to go back to half-day, with our economy as it is many families are struggling with bills and day care is a big one.
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Post by WeNeed3 on Nov 13, 2008 8:54:17 GMT -5
I wonder how many people up north would have preferred half-day Kindergarten but when they found out it was at Clow, said forget it. Would it be that awful to have a north 1/2 day school and a south half-day school?
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Post by momto4 on Nov 13, 2008 10:14:28 GMT -5
I wonder how many people up north would have preferred half-day Kindergarten but when they found out it was at Clow, said forget it. Would it be that awful to have a north 1/2 day school and a south half-day school? Even though my kids are past kindergarten I'm still angry they chose not to do this. It seems wrong to have basically forced most families into ADK. While many families are happy to have ADK available, there are certainly quite a few that would have preferred half day had it been a reasonable option. I think location is not the only deciding factor though, I heard there was a lot of pressure to sign up for all day rather than half. It is easy to prey on parents' fears that their children will not be well-prepared for 1st grade. Yet last year's few weeks of trial run that reported such terrific results was for kids who were at-risk, i.e. showed up in 204 kindergarten less prepared than our average student and could use the extra time to get caught up.
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Post by momto4 on Nov 13, 2008 10:14:46 GMT -5
Get rid of ADK and problem solved, right? Seems possible, but won't happen with our current admin/SB. Instead of finding a place for the few half day classes, maybe ADK should have been offered in those schools that had space available... Which would not include Young apparently.
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Post by WeNeed3 on Nov 13, 2008 18:26:46 GMT -5
I wonder how many people up north would have preferred half-day Kindergarten but when they found out it was at Clow, said forget it. Would it be that awful to have a north 1/2 day school and a south half-day school? Even though my kids are past kindergarten I'm still angry they chose not to do this. It seems wrong to have basically forced most families into ADK. While many families are happy to have ADK available, there are certainly quite a few that would have preferred half day had it been a reasonable option. I think location is not the only deciding factor though, I heard there was a lot of pressure to sign up for all day rather than half. It is easy to prey on parents' fears that their children will not be well-prepared for 1st grade. Yet last year's few weeks of trial run that reported such terrific results was for kids who were at-risk, i.e. showed up in 204 kindergarten less prepared than our average student and could use the extra time to get caught up. I agree, it seems like people I know weren't given much of a choice either. I don't know if that would solve the overcrowding or not, but it would seem like an easy solution if they just opened that back up again and see if there were more interested people up north that might take advantage of half day. Seems like that would be going backwards though. But if more people wanted 1/2 day kindergarten and it helped the crowding there, it seems like a win-win.
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Post by steckdad on Nov 13, 2008 20:19:59 GMT -5
Get rid of ADK and problem solved, right? ADK has been great for my little one so far. She is doing great with math, reading etc. she has struggled a little bit with the learning to be a student part though. just in a short period of time her reading skills have probably doubled.
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Post by momto4 on Nov 13, 2008 21:37:54 GMT -5
ADK has been great for my little one so far. She is doing great with math, reading etc. she has struggled a little bit with the learning to be a student part though. just in a short period of time her reading skills have probably doubled. I'm glad to hear it has been a great experience for her. Do you think she has learned more by being in ADK than she would have in half days?
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Post by rural on Nov 13, 2008 23:51:04 GMT -5
I have a question: If a parent feels their child is not ready for ADK, can the hold off from signing them up for public school for a year and start kindergarten when they are 6 rather than 5?
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Post by we4 on Nov 14, 2008 7:20:15 GMT -5
I have a question: If a parent feels their child is not ready for ADK, can the hold off from signing them up for public school for a year and start kindergarten when they are 6 rather than 5? Absolutely. I know several parents of children with summer birthdays that have done that. My son has a summer birthday and notice a big difference in his preschool between him as 4 years and a few months vs a just turned 5 year old or a child that turned 5 in Sept.
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Post by wvhsparent on Nov 14, 2008 9:37:29 GMT -5
I met with my neighborhood watch group last nite. Many there (with kids at Young) were not aware of the portables going in, but they were all fine with it.
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