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Post by whiteeaglewarrior on May 7, 2008 12:13:08 GMT -5
I thought I would start a new thread on a topic that no one seems to talk about. When all this business is done and the new HS is built it will be a neat trick to try putting the district back together again. There will be alot of wreakage; people turned against others, neighborhoods blacklisted, a larger then ever split between north and south. And the future of the SB is another story. I am going to throw out some predictions.
1. Since the district has been batting 0.00 against BB there is no reason why that will change. That suit will be lost and we will have to pay up again. 2. The district will win the NSFOC suit but which ever way that goes expect all Hell to break loose and the widening gap in 204 moves farther and deeper for good. 3. It will finally be confirmed there is not and never was danger of contamination or a possible pipeline explosion at Eola. 4. There will be a major shift in the SB in the next two elections. In the next election look for 2 or possibly three new members. And where the new members live will be a major issue. 5. The South will gain the majority on the SB. and the boundry issue will come up continually. 6. The NSFOC people will be harder to live with then ever 7. Everyone will still hate Tall Grass
Anyone else? A hard topic to think about but its better then being obsessed by the pipelines on the blue board.
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Post by sushi on May 7, 2008 13:33:08 GMT -5
I will campaign long and hard to get CV out, too. She is nothing but a mouthpiece for another group.
It will be an interesting SB race.
I think you are right on most counts. BB - not so sure; I'm keeping a positive attitude.
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Post by rural on May 7, 2008 13:44:10 GMT -5
Okay WEW I'll add to your comments with my two pennies in purple: I thought I would start a new thread on a topic that no one seems to talk about. When all this business is done and the new HS is built it will be a neat trick to try putting the district back together again. There will be alot of wreakage; people turned against others, neighborhoods blacklisted, a larger then ever split between north and south. And the future of the SB is another story. I am going to throw out some predictions.
1. Since the district has been batting 0.00 against BB there is no reason why that will change. That suit will be lost and we will have to pay up again.
I must disagree. I believe this portion of the suit will be addressed by a judge not a jury. Even a jury, would be able to see that BB owns most of the culpability for the length of the trial. I don't think it will sway in BB's favor to the extent that others are claiming, if at all.
2. The district will win the NSFOC suit but which ever way that goes expect all Hell to break loose and the widening gap in 204 moves farther and deeper for good.
The only hell that will break loose will be among the NSFOC themselves (what, maybe 300 financial supporters and at the most another 300 in the back cheering). Most of the rest of the district is unaffected and completely oblivious as to any rift within the district or they believe the NSFOC is an out of control "parents' group" that is wasting time and tax dollars.
3. It will finally be confirmed there is not and never was danger of contamination or a possible pipeline explosion at Eola.
Agreed!
4. There will be a major shift in the SB in the next two elections. In the next election look for 2 or possibly three new members. And where the new members live will be a major issue.
I believe you are right about this also. I think there are some currently sitting on the board that will be more than pleased to pass the baton to someone else.
5. The South will gain the majority on the SB. and the boundry issue will come up continually.
This will be interesting. I don't actually agree, but also don't really know. I would question anyone's sanity who actually wants to run for school board in this district. ;D
6. The NSFOC people will be harder to live with then ever.
Like everything else in life, it will get worse before it gets better. However, I believe it will get better.
7. Everyone will still hate Tall Grass.
Unfair. Everyone does not hate TG. I know quite a few very nice people from Tall Grass and would never let a few rotten apples destroy my opinion of them. It's a large subdivision and NSFOC is only a portion. Cut them some slack.
Anyone else? A hard topic to think about but its better then being obsessed by the pipelines on the blue board.
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Post by gatormom on May 7, 2008 14:47:53 GMT -5
I will campaign long and hard to get CV out, too. She is nothing but a mouthpiece for another group. It will be an interesting SB race. I think you are right on most counts. BB - not so sure; I'm keeping a positive attitude. I am with you on this one. CV needs to go. I will also be very careful who I vote for. I don't want anyone voted in who wishes to change the boundaries (I don't EVER want to go through that again).
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Post by gman413 on May 7, 2008 14:48:46 GMT -5
The optimist in me would like to think that if we're all really "for the children", we'll return our focus to doing what we can to help them have the most positive experience possible in D204. Anyone wishing to continue or sustain "the wreckage" I would contend is not truly "for the children"
ETA: re: future SB candidates - anyone throwing their hat in the ring should expect to be vetted beyond belief and have their motives called into question each and every day.
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Post by justvote on May 7, 2008 14:51:46 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this thread. The points you bring up are very interesting.
1. Since the district has been batting 0.00 against BB there is no reason why that will change. That suit will be lost and we will have to pay up again.
I completely disagree. I do not believe any judge will force us to purchase the BB property. I just don't see the legal basis for this. I do think we'll be on the hook for fees and possibly damages associated with the depreciated value of the property (if there is any). I don't believe we will be forced to pay for other claimed damages relating to PREIT pulling out.
2. The district will win the NSFOC suit but which ever way that goes expect all Hell to break loose and the widening gap in 204 moves farther and deeper for good.
I'm not sure what you mean by "the widening gap in 204 moves farther...." Maybe a few people will feel this way, but the vast majority of the district will move on. In all honesty, I think you're placing too much importance on NSFOC. Most people I know see them as a small parent's group who are more of a nuisance than anything else.
3. It will finally be confirmed there is not and never was danger of contamination or a possible pipeline explosion at Eola.
I'm not sure it will ever be "confirmed" as there are those who will never be convinced that the site is safe.
4. There will be a major shift in the SB in the next two elections. In the next election look for 2 or possibly three new members. And where the new members live will be a major issue.
No question about that. I believe 2 have already publicly stated that they will not be running again
5. The South will gain the majority on the SB. and the boundry issue will come up continually.
Probably not. One of them not running is from the south. There will not be enough turnover in the next election for the south to have a majority. I don't understand the significance of that anyway as the SB members are elected to serve the entire district, so where they personally live should not be relevant.
6. The NSFOC people will be harder to live with then ever
If the suit is dismissed that may be true, but so what? The influence they have now is directly related to the outstanding lawsuit. Any influence they currently wield would be severely diminished if the suit is dismissed. After that happens, NSFOC will fall off most people's radar pretty quickly.
7. Everyone will still hate Tall Grass
Most people do not "hate Tall Grass". I have yet to talk with anyone who has come out and said that. Most recognize that NSFOC is a small group of parents that don't represent the Tall Grass community as a whole.
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Post by chicoryowl on May 7, 2008 15:23:31 GMT -5
I really like the idea of using your original post as a template. I thought I would start a new thread on a topic that no one seems to talk about. When all this business is done and the new HS is built it will be a neat trick to try putting the district back together again. There will be alot of wreakage; people turned against others, neighborhoods blacklisted, a larger then ever split between north and south. And the future of the SB is another story. I am going to throw out some predictions. 1. Since the district has been batting 0.00 against BB there is no reason why that will change. That suit will be lost and we will have to pay up again. I think we will have to pay expected damages but I don't believe there will be much else beyond that. And certainly not for PREIT pulling out. If our being on the land was so important to the PREIT deal, BB could have made that work in several forms and fashions.2. The district will win the NSFOC suit but which ever way that goes expect all Hell to break loose and the widening gap in 204 moves farther and deeper for good. I don't know if hell will break loose, but I do believe this will be a bone of contention for serveral years to come. I think even many of those that support the Eola site (me included) look at this as the best of a bad situation. I don't know if I'd term getting this done as a pyrrhic victory, but I think it's pretty close.3. It will finally be confirmed there is not and never was danger of contamination or a possible pipeline explosion at Eola. Disagree to the extent that it will be difficult to prove in the immediate or mid-range term that no danger exists.4. There will be a major shift in the SB in the next two elections. In the next election look for 2 or possibly three new members. And where the new members live will be a major issue. Agree. Very much so. Throw in what gman said here as well.5. The South will gain the majority on the SB. and the boundry issue will come up continually. Don't know about the south but I think boundaries will be discussed for several more years until complete build out.6. The NSFOC people will be harder to live with then ever The only way I'll respond to this is that it's a shame that some NSFOC supporters used to be some of the most active in the district and supportive of the SB and they're now turned against it. Not good for anybody.7. Everyone will still hate Tall Grass TG has a negative reputation and I believe it will continue to endure. (It is worth noting that I believe they either earned or cemented that reputation during the last referendum when the people stormed out of the boundary meeting and that area voted to pass the referendum.)Anyone else? A hard topic to think about but its better then being obsessed by the pipelines on the blue board. There's a good chance my couch will be fixed so we won't have to buy a new living room set. That's good news for everybody.
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Post by momto4 on May 7, 2008 15:39:22 GMT -5
There's a good chance my couch will be fixed so we won't have to buy a new living room set. That's good news for everybody. I know I'll sleep better tonight.
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Post by gatordog on May 7, 2008 16:18:18 GMT -5
I predict that we will have three excellent HS's in our district.
And students attending each one of them will be proud to be there.
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Post by mclovin on May 7, 2008 16:42:45 GMT -5
I predict that we will have three excellent HS's in our district. And students attending each one of them will be proud to be there. Gatordog, Nice post! I agree with you. I may be unhappy at how we have arrived at where we are at today but I can tell you for certain, my son is going to have a positive high school experience wherever he ends up. Frankly, he'd rather be a Warrior than a Wildcat or a Mustang because in his mind (at 11 yrs. old) a Warrior is much cooler than a Wildcat or a Mustang. That's his take on this situation. Sometimes, kids can be much more adult than adults, no? The kids will move on and be fine regardless of what occurs. However, with flammatory comments like this "number 7. Everyone will still hate Tall Grass." I still have major worries about the parents in the district. Just my 2 cents. Edit: added "flammatory"
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Post by momto4 on May 7, 2008 16:51:45 GMT -5
I predict that we will have three excellent HS's in our district. And students attending each one of them will be proud to be there. Gatordog, Nice post! I agree with you. I may be unhappy at how we have arrived at where we are at today but I can tell you for certain, my son is going to have a positive high school experience wherever he ends up. However, with flammatory comments like this "number 7. Everyone will still hate Tall Grass." I still have major worries about the parents in the district. I agree as well! I can only hope that this particular comment was meant to have a smiley. I know I don't seriously believe that everyone hates TG or will in the future. I am certain there are thousands who do have bad feelings towards NSFOC supporters, regardless of where they live.
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Post by title1parent on May 7, 2008 17:39:32 GMT -5
I do not HATE anyone.
I, along with many in my area, will be welcoming 2 new communities into a fabulous HS. I plan on working side by side with many of these new families to continue to make WV the great school I already know it to be.
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Post by eb204 on May 7, 2008 17:51:51 GMT -5
I predict that we will have three excellent HS's in our district. And students attending each one of them will be proud to be there. Gatordog, Nice post! I agree with you. I may be unhappy at how we have arrived at where we are at today but I can tell you for certain, my son is going to have a positive high school experience wherever he ends up. Frankly, he'd rather be a Warrior than a Wildcat or a Mustang because in his mind (at 11 yrs. old) a Warrior is much cooler than a Wildcat or a Mustang. That's his take on this situation. Sometimes, kids can be much more adult than adults, no? The kids will move on and be fine regardless of what occurs. However, with flammatory comments like this "number 7. Everyone will still hate Tall Grass." I still have major worries about the parents in the district. Just my 2 cents. Edit: added "flammatory" Totally agree with your point about #7. There will be people who will always remember the NSFOC and what transpired, but I do hope that the entire community is not singled out because of a few people who made their choice to be involved in a lawsuit. More importantly, if that attitude continues, it will be the children of the TG parents that also will have to take the brunt of that "hatred". It's not fair to those kids to have to deal with this. I sincerely hope that much of this is transparent to the kids, anyway. There is no need to get them involved in the middle of this. I do think the kids will be fine as long as the adults can play nicely. Oh, and my son thinks the most important thing about the new school is the Mustangs. When boundaries were being decided and this came up in discussion, he said that he doesn't care where he goes to school but wherever he was going, they would have to change their name to Mustangs. Somehow, Waubonsie Valley Mustangs just doesn't have the same ring to it. So he is glad we are at Metea only because of the name. He could care less about anything else.
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Post by 3woodgal on May 7, 2008 18:44:51 GMT -5
What an idiotic statement regarding Everyone Hates Tallgrass. I tell my child not to generalize. Do you know everyone Whiteeaglewarrior? I don't think though that any subdivision really gives a hoot how someone feels about them in general. Let's grow up. To post that makes no sense!
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Post by WeNeed3 on May 7, 2008 19:00:39 GMT -5
I think people are really starting to realize the "Tall Grass" thing is getting old. People are emotional and need a scapegoat. It's just like the SB is the scapegoat for others. I think right now it is more of an NSFOC thing which should die down eventually (unless the whole HS thing gets squashed--then we will have some mad folks who were clueless before now waking up--just my opinion).
Although people do remember the White Eagle water thing, people don't hate WE because of that. In time, this will be the same thing. Once the kids meet other kids and everyone gets along, those dense parents will follow. You TG people are tough and won't let that stop you from having your kids have the best HS experience possible!
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