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Post by WeNeed3 on Feb 11, 2009 20:19:43 GMT -5
Board Work Session February 23
Reported by 204-info@ipsd.org on 2/10/09
A Board of Education work session is scheduled on Monday, February 23 from 5 to 6 pm at the Crouse Education Center. Discussion will focus on current board policy and state law related to student discipline. The district's legal counsel will be present to participate in the discussion.
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Post by wvhsparent on Feb 11, 2009 22:33:53 GMT -5
That's good. They seem to be taking it seriously.
Let's hope something good comes of this.
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Post by steckdad on Feb 11, 2009 22:56:29 GMT -5
That's good. They seem to be taking it seriously. Let's hope something good comes of this. I am glad they are addressing it too. I am afraid that legally there is not much they can do when a situation happens outside the school like the one at gregory. hopefully I am wrong about that....
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Post by eb204 on Feb 11, 2009 23:18:12 GMT -5
That's good. They seem to be taking it seriously. Let's hope something good comes of this. I am glad they are addressing it too. I am afraid that legally there is not much they can do when a situation happens outside the school like the one at gregory. hopefully I am wrong about that.... But again, if a teacher were attacked outside of school, the student would be expelled, IIRC, from previously stated policies. There needs to be something in the policies that address student vs. student attacks/harassments. I'm hopeful that some changes will come from this work session.
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Post by WeNeed3 on Feb 12, 2009 7:09:24 GMT -5
It will be a shame if things can't be retrofitted to this situation, but it is crucial we at least get something in place for the future that addresses this.
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Post by asmodeus on Feb 12, 2009 10:03:13 GMT -5
I don't see that the location matters. Let's say it had happened at the school but there were no witnesses (same as in this case except it happened at someone's house). What difference would it make?
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Post by steckdad on Feb 12, 2009 10:10:15 GMT -5
I don't see that the location matters. Let's say it had happened at the school but there were no witnesses (same as in this case except it happened at someone's house). What difference would it make? I am not a legal expert by any means. but don't you think the SD was treading lightly for a reason? I don't think it was from a lack of policy...
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Post by Arwen on Feb 12, 2009 11:15:21 GMT -5
I was talking to a former dist. 204 social worker yesterday. She said that this is definitely not the first case of student-to-student sexual assualt where the victim and perpetrator were kept in the same building together in our district. She said that usually, the victim's family pulls their student when this happens. Apparently, this is the first time the victim's parents have decided to go public and make a stink about it. If this is true, then this reexamination is long overdue.
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Post by asmodeus on Feb 12, 2009 12:26:06 GMT -5
I am not blaming the SB for their caution, but trying to figure out what the legal restrictions are. Let's say this did happen at school and there were even some witnesses. One could argue the accused are still guaranteed due process and should stay at the school until an actual guilty verdict. That's probably why the victim usually ends up moving -- as unfair as that is, the presumption of innocence trumps the victim's desire to avoid contact.
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Post by gatormom on Feb 12, 2009 12:35:36 GMT -5
I am not blaming the SB for their caution, but trying to figure out what the legal restrictions are. Let's say this did happen at school and there were even some witnesses. One could argue the accused are still guaranteed due process and should stay at the school until an actual guilty verdict. That's probably why the victim usually ends up moving -- as unfair as that is, the presumption of innocence trumps the victim's desire to avoid contact. When something happens on school property, the school is part of the investigation and they can take action on their own findings. If it happens off school property, as in this case, it is a police investigation. I think that might be the difference.
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Post by wvhsparent on Feb 12, 2009 13:34:28 GMT -5
I am glad they are addressing it too. I am afraid that legally there is not much they can do when a situation happens outside the school like the one at gregory. hopefully I am wrong about that.... But again, if a teacher were attacked outside of school, the student would be expelled, IIRC, from previously stated policies. There needs to be something in the policies that address student vs. student attacks/harassments. I'm hopeful that some changes will come from this work session. For clarification a teacher from the school, while employed at said school is a person of authority and represents the school, therefore is considered part of the school regardless of location.
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