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Post by momto4 on Mar 16, 2009 11:34:40 GMT -5
From Mr. Schmid -
Hi – Just a quick reminder that our next MVHS informational Meeting is scheduled for this Wednesday, 3/18/09 from 7:00 – 8:00 pm in the WVHS LMC – 2nd floor of the building. AD Tom Schweer will also be there to answer questions, thanks
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Post by momto4 on Mar 16, 2009 11:36:16 GMT -5
FWIW - I've been to all but one (last month coaches/sports teams, I had no need for that info) of these and have found them to be informative. It is a great forum for getting answers to any questions you may have.
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Post by momto4 on Mar 19, 2009 8:55:21 GMT -5
MVHS building is on target for us to be allowed into the building on 8/1. This allows time to get everything set up in time for the start of school and to allow the public some opportunities to see the interior and the incoming students to have orientations.
They expect about 650 freshmen and 600 sophomores in the first year. There are 6-8 more teaching positions to be filled and those will be posted soon. Support staff and other positions will be posted in April but may not need many outside of those who will move from the other high schools.
Scheduling has just been completed. Mr. Schmid was surprised that only 40-50 kids are signed up for study hall. A few elective classes had to be canceled due to low enrollment but students will be able to take those classes another semester or in a later year. This is more likely to affect sophomores as they have more elective choices than freshmen. Affected students will be contacted soon at school about the necessary schedule changes.
There are only two classes with enrollment under 15 students that will be held. One is yearbook, in which 13 students are enrolled. There was some worry about yearbook and journalism (student newspaper class) since they are normally only for juniors and seniors. There are 23 students enrolled in journalism. Great opportunities for these students!
Core classes are expected to have 27-29 students with some honors classes at 31, and electives at either 22-24 or 28 depending on the type of class.
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Post by momto4 on Mar 19, 2009 9:00:40 GMT -5
The school's mission statement is LIFE - Live with integrity Inspire passion for learning Foster positive relationships Expect equity and excellence
Next month's there will be a panel of students who were in NV's first class to tell about their experience and answer questions.
There are sponsors for many clubs already and there will be an activity fair in late April or early May to learn about them.
Sports try-outs will follow a similar pattern to what we're already all familiar with. Some dates and schedules are already posted on the website.
Summer camp info is online. There will be more camps next year.
No freshmen varsity sports players will be grandfathered to play at their current schools next year if they are slated to change schools.
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Post by wvhsparent on Mar 19, 2009 9:05:18 GMT -5
Did he say how low the "low enrollment" was on the cancelled classes?
It would seem to me that these should be much lower than normal based on the fact there are less kid there that year. say the Min normally is 8, I would think it should be 5 especially for that 1st year.
I could see if it's only 1 or 2 that signed up, but any more than that, depending on the class, probably should be held anyway.....Just think of the teacher student interaction!...Off the charts!!!
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Post by warriorpride on Mar 19, 2009 10:09:53 GMT -5
Did he say how low the "low enrollment" was on the cancelled classes? It would seem to me that these should be much lower than normal based on the fact there are less kid there that year. say the Min normally is 8, I would think it should be 5 especially for that 1st year. I could see if it's only 1 or 2 that signed up, but any more than that, depending on the class, probably should be held anyway.....Just think of the teacher student interaction!...Off the charts!!! He implied that classes below 20-some would not be allowed at any of the HSs. He also said that cancelled classes would very likely be available next year.
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Post by gatordog on Mar 19, 2009 11:40:58 GMT -5
No freshmen varsity sports players will be grandfathered to play at their current schools next year if they are slated to change schools. That is good. Keep the MV teams intact. Dont jeopardize WV with worst-case ineligibility complications. Avoid the horrible complication of chosing who is "worthy" of grandfathering, and who is not. One question though....is there any possibility of some MV teams, where sufficiently competitive, starting up at varsity level? Is MV admin considering this? Would Upstate 8 Conference support it?
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Post by fasttimes on Mar 19, 2009 14:20:05 GMT -5
No freshmen varsity sports players will be grandfathered to play at their current schools next year if they are slated to change schools. That is good. Keep the MV teams intact. Dont jeopardize WV with worst-case ineligibility complications. Avoid the horrible complication of chosing who is "worthy" of grandfathering, and who is not. One question though....is there any possibility of some MV teams, where sufficiently competitive, starting up at varsity level? Is MV admin considering this? Would Upstate 8 Conference support it? Very few teams with only freshmen and Sophs would be competitive . I would think that would be the rare exception. I cant even imagine Varsity football, what that would be like... I know of what I speak. Way back in the day (glory days) I was on a summer American Legion baseball team made up of all 14 and 15 year olds. We played in the U 19 (cannot be 19 yrs old before August 1st) and most of the other teams were made up of juniors (going to be Seniors) Graduated Seniors and some freshmen in college (going to be sophs in collage as they were young and came back to play for their local travel team instead of playing in the college summer leagues). Pro rules (metal cleats, no 10 run rule etc etc) Our team was very very good. We had multiple guys eventually play in college and in the minor leagues and 2 of the 20 players made it to the big leagues. The age/mental difference and physical difference was just too much. We only won a few games that summer out of SIXTY. A few times we lost by scores like 19 to 2. 11 to 0. I will say that playing the better competition helped in the long run. Our team our senior year made it to the national championships (American Legion World Series) summer season final record was something like 94-28 and we placed 3rd in the Nat championship. We lost to Cinncinatti (the team Pete Rose's kid played for and Ken Griffey Played for) and they took it all that year. Bottom line, my long winded point is that it is a rare case that a group of 14/15 year olds are going to be able to be competitve in most sports with 17,18,19 year olds no matter how good they are. a three year age difference is huge for teenagers on a general basis (there are individual exceptions of course, but ver very rare to have a group of exceptions at the same HS on the same team)
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Post by gatordog on Mar 19, 2009 15:34:20 GMT -5
That is good. Keep the MV teams intact. Dont jeopardize WV with worst-case ineligibility complications. Avoid the horrible complication of chosing who is "worthy" of grandfathering, and who is not. One question though....is there any possibility of some MV teams, where sufficiently competitive, starting up at varsity level? Is MV admin considering this? Would Upstate 8 Conference support it? Very few teams with only freshmen and Sophs would be competitive . I would think that would be the rare exception. I cant even imagine Varsity football, what that would be like... ...... good perspective, ft. I understand. I enjoyed here the baseball stories! (a very nice "playing career" you had. Those were the days!) I should say that varsity football has been always "off the table". No question! I did add, my qualification of "where sufficiently competitive". I would also hear what the MV coaches, and conference officials, think. (a little background: Blue board poster drwho has had this as an issue for some time now. My stand is, if MV admin thinks its viable, i would support them in trying to start with some sports teams at varsity level. I would even encourage it, where its feasible )
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Post by drdavelasik on Mar 19, 2009 15:44:10 GMT -5
That is good. Keep the MV teams intact. Dont jeopardize WV with worst-case ineligibility complications. Avoid the horrible complication of chosing who is "worthy" of grandfathering, and who is not. One question though....is there any possibility of some MV teams, where sufficiently competitive, starting up at varsity level? Is MV admin considering this? Would Upstate 8 Conference support it? Very few teams with only freshmen and Sophs would be competitive . I would think that would be the rare exception. I cant even imagine Varsity football, what that would be like... I know of what I speak. Way back in the day (glory days) I was on a summer American Legion baseball team made up of all 14 and 15 year olds. We played in the U 19 (cannot be 19 yrs old before August 1st) and most of the other teams were made up of juniors (going to be Seniors) Graduated Seniors and some freshmen in college (going to be sophs in collage as they were young and came back to play for their local travel team instead of playing in the college summer leagues). Pro rules (metal cleats, no 10 run rule etc etc) Our team was very very good. We had multiple guys eventually play in college and in the minor leagues and 2 of the 20 players made it to the big leagues. The age/mental difference and physical difference was just too much. We only won a few games that summer out of SIXTY. A few times we lost by scores like 19 to 2. 11 to 0. I will say that playing the better competition helped in the long run. Our team our senior year made it to the national championships (American Legion World Series) summer season final record was something like 94-28 and we placed 3rd in the Nat championship. We lost to Cinncinatti (the team Pete Rose's kid played for and Ken Griffey Played for) and they took it all that year. Bottom line, my long winded point is that it is a rare case that a group of 14/15 year olds are going to be able to be competitve in most sports with 17,18,19 year olds no matter how good they are. a three year age difference is huge for teenagers on a general basis (there are individual exceptions of course, but ver very rare to have a group of exceptions at the same HS on the same team) I agree for the most part but it is nice to have the option. It is not uncommon for freshman and sophomores to make varsity especially coming out of club sports (soccer, tennis, gymnastics, etc.)
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Post by fasttimes on Mar 19, 2009 18:06:56 GMT -5
Very few teams with only freshmen and Sophs would be competitive . I would think that would be the rare exception. I cant even imagine Varsity football, what that would be like... ...... good perspective, ft. I understand. I enjoyed here the baseball stories! (a very nice "playing career" you had. Those were the days!) I should say that varsity football has been always "off the table". No question! I did add, my qualification of "where sufficiently competitive". I would also hear what the MV coaches, and conference officials, think. (a little background: Blue board poster drwho has had this as an issue for some time now. My stand is, if MV admin thinks its viable, i would support them in trying to start with some sports teams at varsity level. I would even encourage it, where its feasible ) Hi GatorMom. I may need to qualify my post as there are a couple of points that I had not thought of for one reason or another (hey thats why we have boards!! multiple heads are better than one ;D). I may have to rethink my post and revise based on some of the very good points you make. * Clubs are much more prevalent in all sports today and that could close the gap. I hadnt really thought about the big difference today vs. yesteryear on that key point. * Perhaps there are some sports (small # of starters like basketball) that could have a shot with a couple of wiz kids. * Girls teams might be much more competitive without upperclassmen and be able to handle age gap much better; given that generally, they go through puberity at an earlier age than boys and therefore (Im generalizing here) the physical gap would be much less pronounced (in general). Hence I am taking in some good points from other posters and would like to amend my post accordingly ;D I agree 100%; if MV can be competitive in certain sports...WE NEED to let them play at the VARSITY Level!! not sure who makes that decision (I would imagine the league would along with D204 officials). Parents also have to agree as well. Cheers GF
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Post by fasttimes on Mar 19, 2009 18:13:06 GMT -5
good perspective, ft. I understand. I enjoyed here the baseball stories! (a very nice "playing career" you had. Those were the days!) I should say that varsity football has been always "off the table". No question! I did add, my qualification of "where sufficiently competitive". I would also hear what the MV coaches, and conference officials, think. (a little background: Blue board poster drwho has had this as an issue for some time now. My stand is, if MV admin thinks its viable, i would support them in trying to start with some sports teams at varsity level. I would even encourage it, where its feasible ) Hi GatorMom. I may need to qualify my post as there are a couple of points that I had not thought of for one reason or another (hey thats why we have boards!! multiple heads are better than one ;D). I may have to rethink my post and revise based on some of the very good points you make. * Clubs are much more prevalent in all sports today and that could close the gap. I hadnt really thought about the big difference today vs. yesteryear on that key point. * Perhaps there are some sports (small # of starters like basketball) that could have a shot with a couple of wiz kids. * Girls teams might be much more competitive without upperclassmen and be able to handle age gap much better; given that generally, they go through puberity at an earlier age than boys and therefore (Im generalizing here) the physical gap would be much less pronounced (in general). Hence I am taking in some good points from other posters and would like to amend my post accordingly ;D I agree 100%; if MV can be competitive in certain sports...WE NEED to let them play at the VARSITY Level!! not sure who makes that decision (I would imagine the league would along with D204 officials). Parents also have to agree as well. Cheers GF Dr. Who also made some of these points and DrDave as well. I qualified my post, but I dont think I will ever be convinced that next year MV will have a competitive (talking .400 to .500 win/loss percentage) in most of the sports (boys and girls) at a varsity level. But if they can field a competitive team at varsity; it should be done!!
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Post by momto4 on Mar 19, 2009 18:30:24 GMT -5
good perspective, ft. I understand. I enjoyed here the baseball stories! (a very nice "playing career" you had. Those were the days!) I should say that varsity football has been always "off the table". No question! I did add, my qualification of "where sufficiently competitive". I would also hear what the MV coaches, and conference officials, think. (a little background: Blue board poster drwho has had this as an issue for some time now. My stand is, if MV admin thinks its viable, i would support them in trying to start with some sports teams at varsity level. I would even encourage it, where its feasible ) Hi GatorMom. I may need to qualify my post as there are a couple of points that I had not thought of for one reason or another (hey thats why we have boards!! multiple heads are better than one ;D). I may have to rethink my post and revise based on some of the very good points you make. * Clubs are much more prevalent in all sports today and that could close the gap. I hadnt really thought about the big difference today vs. yesteryear on that key point. * Perhaps there are some sports (small # of starters like basketball) that could have a shot with a couple of wiz kids. * Girls teams might be much more competitive without upperclassmen and be able to handle age gap much better; given that generally, they go through puberity at an earlier age than boys and therefore (Im generalizing here) the physical gap would be much less pronounced (in general). Hence I am taking in some good points from other posters and would like to amend my post accordingly ;D I agree 100%; if MV can be competitive in certain sports...WE NEED to let them play at the VARSITY Level!! not sure who makes that decision (I would imagine the league would along with D204 officials). Parents also have to agree as well. Cheers GF The athletic director has been working on the MVHS sports program all of this year. There will not be any varsity team sports next year. There will be some JV, sophomore, and freshman A & B teams. Individuals who qualify for individual sports at the varsity level will be able to compete at that level. This policy has been set and in place all year already and next year's competitions are almost 100% set up already. I don't think there will be many changes at this point.
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