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Post by warriorpride on Oct 22, 2008 10:02:22 GMT -5
For Metea? Keep dreaming. She meant January 2010 (4 months of construction during the 09-10 school year). And as of last night, they are still saying that construction is planned to be complete in January-February 2010
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Post by eb204 on Oct 26, 2008 18:08:39 GMT -5
I went by the construction site today for the first time in a few weeks and all I can say is "WOW!" There's been so much progress in just a few weeks. The pictures on the website don't even do it justice.
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Post by justvote on Oct 26, 2008 21:43:05 GMT -5
For Metea? Keep dreaming. Have you been by the site? As I posted earlier, I very rarely drive by the site as I live south & it's never part of my "route". The progress they've made is nothing short of astonishing. I remember the last time I drove by was a few months back & it was nothing but a hole in the ground. There are structures, walls, parking lots, etc. I have to admit that I was a bit skeptical in the beginning, but I believe it's very conceivable that it will be ready for occupancy by Fall 2009 with a completion date of January 2010
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Post by eb204 on Oct 26, 2008 22:32:23 GMT -5
For Metea? Keep dreaming. Have you been by the site? As I posted earlier, I very rarely drive by the site as I live south & it's never part of my "route". The progress they've made is nothing short of astonishing. I remember the last time I drove by was a few months back & it was nothing but a hole in the ground. There are structures, walls, parking lots, etc. I have to admit that I was a bit skeptical in the beginning, but I believe it's very conceivable that it will be ready for occupancy by Fall 2009 with a completion date of January 2010 No doubt in my mind either that it will be completed. I know there are some that are saying we are paying such huge prices to expedite the construction, but with the price of everything going up, I can't imagine the prices of construction materials if the district had waited. I'm glad to see the progress that's been made.
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Post by WeNeed3 on Oct 27, 2008 7:09:30 GMT -5
For Metea? Keep dreaming. She meant January 2010 (4 months of construction during the 09-10 school year). And as of last night, they are still saying that construction is planned to be complete in January-February 2010 Thank you WP for clearing that up. I really don't see the hoopla of this "my kid is not getting a complete HS experience" when some people have children that will be at Central and tolerating construction for three years. Now there I can see they might not have a complete HS experience. Granted, the fall sports situation at MV may be a bit tough but again, the pros of getting this school open so we can relieve crowding at both the MS and HS levels as soon as possible definitely outweigh the cons IMO. 4-5 months of construction doesn't seem that big of a deal when you look at other schools' situations.
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Post by wvhsparent on Oct 27, 2008 9:15:45 GMT -5
She meant January 2010 (4 months of construction during the 09-10 school year). And as of last night, they are still saying that construction is planned to be complete in January-February 2010 Thank you WP for clearing that up. I really don't see the hoopla of this "my kid is not getting a complete HS experience" when some people have children that will be at Central and tolerating construction for three years. Now there I can see they might not have a complete HS experience. Granted, the fall sports situation at MV may be a bit tough but again, the pros of getting this school open so we can relieve crowding at both the MS and HS levels as soon as possible definitely outweigh the cons IMO. 4-5 months of construction doesn't seem that big of a deal when you look at other schools' situations. and everyone needs to remember that the sports issues would occur wherever the school was sited.
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Post by southsidesignmaker on Oct 27, 2008 11:46:38 GMT -5
Wvhs and others,
It is correct that whichever location the third high school was to be located, there would only be freshman and sophomores. That does not lessen the sacrifice some families will have regarding sports or other activities that may not be available until junior year. Also note that the boundaries for some are a "far cry" from what was to be a couple of years ago.
I will admit for my family and others, the location of the third high school was not nearly as important as the overcrowding at the high school level. At the same time the idea that my child will have a less crowded school while some others may find the situation less than ideal, kind of takes the happiness away.
Long term this situation should calm down, but empathy is needed now, a quality that is hard to come by in the world we live in.
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Post by wvhsparent on Oct 27, 2008 13:53:13 GMT -5
Wvhs and others, It is correct that whichever location the third high school was to be located, there would only be freshman and sophomores. That does not lessen the sacrifice some families will have regarding sports or other activities that may not be available until junior year. Also note that the boundaries for some are a "far cry" from what was to be a couple of years ago. I will admit for my family and others, the location of the third high school was not nearly as important as the overcrowding at the high school level. At the same time the idea that my child will have a less crowded school while some others may find the situation less than ideal, kind of takes the happiness away. Long term this situation should calm down, but empathy is needed now, a quality that is hard to come by in the world we live in. SSM Many have tried empathy, but it is not what "some" want. They would rather be angry. We have asked several others to revisit their message, as the old one is tired and no longer effective, But they would rather keep harping the same old things......I have decided that there is no appeasing some and have stopped trying.
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Post by asmodeus on Oct 27, 2008 14:53:59 GMT -5
I haven't seen much empathy, to be honest. What I have seen, for the most part, is apathy/indifference ("we don't care how you feel"), invalidation ("you should not feel the way you do") and even a bit of schadenfreude ("you're upset and that makes us happy").
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Post by gatormom on Oct 27, 2008 15:16:38 GMT -5
I haven't seen much empathy, to be honest. What I have seen, for the most part, is apathy/indifference ("we don't care how you feel"), invalidation ("you should not feel the way you do") and even a bit of schadenfreude ("you're upset and that makes us happy"). You get hit in the face enough times trying to reach out to people and you become indifferent. I now know I got what I wanted so I should just shut up and sit down. So let them be angry, life is far too short to walk into that wall again.
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Post by wvhsparent on Oct 27, 2008 15:20:23 GMT -5
I haven't seen much empathy, to be honest. What I have seen, for the most part, is apathy/indifference ("we don't care how you feel"), invalidation ("you should not feel the way you do") and even a bit of schadenfreude ("you're upset and that makes us happy"). Well I have tried...you must have not noticed....I suppose it's all a matter of perspective.
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Post by impartial on Oct 27, 2008 15:35:21 GMT -5
em⋅pa⋅thy /ˈɛmpəèi/ [em-puh-thee]
–noun 1. the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another.
Not too sure this definition of empathy has truly been expressed on this board.....
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Post by title1parent on Oct 27, 2008 16:02:59 GMT -5
em⋅pa⋅thy /ˈɛmpəèi/ [em-puh-thee] –noun 1. the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another. Not too sure this definition of empathy has truly been expressed on this board..... I could identify with the experience of being sent to another school as was the case with BB. I understood what that entailed as did many of these people because many are the same people going to another school [whether it was BB or now WV or Eola] Vicarious experience....lived it for almost 2 1/2-3 years thinking my daugther was going to BB. Knew it wouldnt be a complete HS as it would only be fresh/soph. Will watch 1/2 my daughter's friends be split from her. Was willing to go to MV if that was what the SB wanted. Anything else??
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Post by warriorpride on Oct 27, 2008 16:08:50 GMT -5
em⋅pa⋅thy /ˈɛmpəèi/ [em-puh-thee] –noun 1. the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another. Not too sure this definition of empathy has truly been expressed on this board..... I had empathy at one point - still do for some. Am i supposed to feel empathy for those that supported nfud and their lawsuit or maybe those that bash the sb at every turn? Thats a tall order. I realize there are others that are impacted that dont fall into those categories. There are many people that are impacted in 09 - the sb and admin seem to be putting things in place to manage the transitions and my guess is that everything will be fine for most kids and families. Whether or not i have empathy won't have near the impact as a family working with the schools and communicating with their kids to make the transitions as successful as possible.
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Post by gatordog on Oct 27, 2008 16:13:12 GMT -5
asmo, I dont think posters here have been apathetic. We are message board geeks, hard to call us apathetic! As far as how one should feel....all one can do is honestly put ourselves in somebody elses shoes. Here is my quick take on how I feel (and I think quite a few others agree with this). I do have empathy for the Tall Grass neighborhood leaving nearby NV. Its not a perfect solution, I wish they could fit into closer-by NV. (there unfortunately wasnt a reasonable boundary plan that accomplished this...one that didnt create MORE problems than it solved). I think myself, and some others, are in a very good position to be completely empathetic... because the same thing was asked of my Gombert Main neighborhood for the BB boundaries. From talking to my neighbors at Gombert, did people here think the BB boundaries were perfect? No. But did we come to understand why it was done? Yes. Even if it meant going to a HS that our kids couldnt walk to and from. Also, I do have empathy for Tall Grass and White Eagle for leaving their traditional school, NV. Psychologically, it is different to be going to the established school, as opposed to the new one. I have to say, again, in a real way myself and the Gombert crowd can directly empathize.....the BB boundary decision came within one vote of doing the very same thing to our neighborhood. In this case, moving us into NV. In a grossly more isolated way as you recall. Were some people "scared", "worried about fitting in", wondering about the "social aspects". Well, yes. But if this had come to pass, I think my neighbors would have moved passed this and gotten over these emotional factors. These are not new ideas I am bringing up. Many of the oldtimer posters remember these issues with Gombert. Those who read about these facts....and those that directly lived it for while....how could we not have anything but empathy! We do! Yes, we have empathy, for what happened in the past. But we also are looking forward to the future.... we know WV is a great D204 school, and the very fine children from Tall Grass, White Eagle, and Ashwood Park will be coming to attend school with another group of very fine kids.!
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