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Post by warriormom on Feb 28, 2009 17:35:22 GMT -5
I believe you owe an apology to whatever small group you were referring to and accusing. Your 'wow' post on another thread just doesn't cut it. I'm not the OP here, but I'd like to respond to this. However inappropriate MM's email was, I don't think one can deny there is viciousness within this community. And the events over this past year (storming out of board meetings, lawsuits, etc. ) are a testiment to that. Major's statement, as I read it, spoke to that aspect alone. Not to MM's email. I think everyone's sentiment to finding out the email was real, including many on the other board, was a collective "WOW". oh please! He was obviously accusing the group you refer to as being the conspirators behind this email. You and I both know it. At least concede that this group did not stoop that low as he insinuated they had! eta: grammar
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Post by asmodeus on Feb 28, 2009 17:44:09 GMT -5
The people here who insinuated this was a hoax should be ASHAMED. Period.
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Post by warriormom on Feb 28, 2009 17:46:12 GMT -5
The people here who insinuated this was a hoax should be ASHAMED. Period. People on both boards thought it was a hoax so I don't think that is something to be ashamed of. Most people wanted to give MM the benefit of the doubt regardless of their like or dislike for him. What is deserving of shame is accusing someone of the email and not apologizing when you find out they had nothing to do with it.
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Post by eb204 on Feb 28, 2009 17:48:13 GMT -5
I'm not the OP here, but I'd like to respond to this. However inappropriate MM's email was, I don't think one can deny there is viciousness within this community. And the events over this past year (storming out of board meetings, lawsuits, etc. ) are a testiment to that. Major's statement, as I read it, spoke to that aspect alone. Not to MM's email. I think everyone's sentiment to finding out the email was real, including many on the other board, was a collective "WOW". oh please! He was obviously accusing the group you refer to as being the conspirators behind this email. You and I both know it. At least concede that this group would not stoop that low as he insinuated they had! Please don't lump me in with you in your thinking. I told you how I read it, but I can also see how it might otherwise be perceived. Unlike some over on blue, I can think for myself and form an opinion on my own without some "group think" mentality. And to read the "lynch mob" comments over there right now, I can't say where the most vicious statements are coming from. If MM steps down, those on blue and possibly elsewhere will have "gotten what they wanted", but some won't be happy until all resign, even though MM was the only one to hit the button. I'm not defending him or his actions in this case. Again, I think we all agree on that aspect. It was a stupid and careless thing to do. I honestly don't know what lengths others will go to, at this point. My perception of individuals and groups over the course of this year has changed dramatically.
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Post by eb204 on Feb 28, 2009 17:49:52 GMT -5
People on both boards thought it was a hoax so I don't think that is something to be ashamed of. Most people wanted to give MM the benefit of the doubt regardless of their like or dislike for him. On this, we agree.
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Post by WeNeed3 on Feb 28, 2009 17:57:22 GMT -5
The people here who insinuated this was a hoax should be ASHAMED. Period. People on both boards thought it was a hoax so I don't think that is something to be ashamed of. Most people wanted to give MM the benefit of the doubt regardless of their like or dislike for him. What is deserving of shame is accusing someone of the email and not apologizing when you find out they had nothing to do with it. Well said, warrior mom. There truly are some vicious statements flying around right now. We need to focus on a lot of things in this district as it is in chaos IMO. We do need to unify somehow to make this district better. We all need to be level headed and check our emotions at the door. I just hope this latest debacle doesn't slow down the efforts of getting a policy in place for this poor victim and his family.
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Post by eb204 on Feb 28, 2009 18:03:14 GMT -5
People on both boards thought it was a hoax so I don't think that is something to be ashamed of. Most people wanted to give MM the benefit of the doubt regardless of their like or dislike for him. What is deserving of shame is accusing someone of the email and not apologizing when you find out they had nothing to do with it. Well said, warrior mom. There truly are some vicious statements flying around right now. We need to focus on a lot of things in this district as it is in chaos IMO. We do need to unify somehow to make this district better. We all need to be level headed and check our emotions at the door. I just hope this latest debacle doesn't slow down the efforts of getting a policy in place for this poor victim and his family. Yes, that should still be the district's first priority. Thanks for putting that back into perspective,WN3.
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Post by wvhsparent on Feb 28, 2009 18:05:35 GMT -5
Let's not get into a blue this green that exchange please.
I thought I acknowledged cocrt's posting of the email properly after it had been verified....I won't apologize for thinking it was fabricated at 1st...pretty much most of us did.
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Post by rural on Feb 28, 2009 18:27:49 GMT -5
Let's not get into a blue this green that exchange please. I thought I acknowledged cocrt's posting of the email properly after it had been verified....I won't apologize for thinking it was fabricated at 1st...pretty much most of us did. I have to admit, I was shocked to learn the truth. While I've been disappointed with MM in the past, this truly takes the cake.
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Post by asmodeus on Feb 28, 2009 19:10:53 GMT -5
There is a big difference between allowing it could be a fabrication and using that possibility as an excuse to launch into an unwarranted attack. The latter are the ones who should be ashamed.
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Post by wvhsparent on Feb 28, 2009 21:09:58 GMT -5
There is a big difference between allowing it could be a fabrication and using that possibility as an excuse to launch into an unwarranted attack. The latter are the ones who should be ashamed. And who here launched such an attack? I must have missed it...
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Post by majorianthrax on Feb 28, 2009 21:39:03 GMT -5
The people here who insinuated this was a hoax should be ASHAMED. Period. Oh come on! I was certain it was a hoax because I couldn't believe MM would lose it like he did. I don't believe many of us did. In all the years he has been on the SB he never once came anywhere close to this. And judging by the hatred some people in this district have for him and this being SB election season a hoax is not hard to imagine. I am not ashamed of anything. Just horribly saddened.
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Post by asmodeus on Feb 28, 2009 21:45:36 GMT -5
Hard to miss these:
By the way, I hate to draw any analogies between the NSFOC and this assault case, but how many people who vilified the members of NFSOC for selfishly filing a lawsuit to remedy a perceived injustice would deny a legal avenue to the parents of the alleged victim? Should the parents have simply accepted the ruling the SB came up with? Was asking for a 100-ft. restraining order a selfish move? Of course not. This is not meant to equate the severity of the two issues in any way, but rather to point out that thankfully we live in a society that allows grievances to be aired in a court of law. And often as a result, rules, policies, and laws are eventually changed for the better.
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Post by asmodeus on Feb 28, 2009 21:57:41 GMT -5
Why is there such a paradox with respect to Metzger? On one hand you have supporters saying he's so compassionate, this is completely out of character, and the only explanation for him snapping is that the vicious community made him do it. Contrast that with those of us who see a rude, condescending, empathy-lacking autocrat. I not only see this e-mail as something not out of character but likely a representative sample of his closed-door communications. The only thing that actually surprised me was that he was careless/stupid enough to get caught.
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Post by drdavelasik on Feb 28, 2009 22:34:41 GMT -5
oh please! He was obviously accusing the group you refer to as being the conspirators behind this email. You and I both know it. At least concede that this group would not stoop that low as he insinuated they had! Please don't lump me in with you in your thinking. I told you how I read it, but I can also see how it might otherwise be perceived. Unlike some over on blue, I can think for myself and form an opinion on my own without some "group think" mentality. And to read the "lynch mob" comments over there right now, I can't say where the most vicious statements are coming from. If MM steps down, those on blue and possibly elsewhere will have "gotten what they wanted", but some won't be happy until all resign, even though MM was the only one to hit the button. I'm not defending him or his actions in this case. Again, I think we all agree on that aspect. It was a stupid and careless thing to do. I honestly don't know what lengths others will go to, at this point. My perception of individuals and groups over the course of this year has changed dramatically. I agree with you that all should not be removed. But CP definately is not suitable for the position. Her quote is unbelievable to me. And AT....well I am not surprised with her infinate wisdom cast on the reasons that M2 would write such a thing. All should be given the benefit of the doubt to a certain point. My parents always told me "If it walks like a duck it is a duck and will never be a swan". M2 stands true to his reputation once again.
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